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:I actually wasn't thinking of you at all when I wrote that; after all, your AfD nomination says "transwiki to wikisource" so I was under the impression that you thought it ''was'' legally in the public domain and you were nominating it for some other reason. I was thinking of Robertsteadman, who in my opinion maintained a very insistent campaign based on the convolution of two issues: 1) a misunderstanding of copyright law, and 2) his believe that the poem was non-notable. He was in error on the first part, and he was rather insistent about it, and if he had listened to the suggestions of others (perhaps the first time Xoloz suggested the problem might be a difference in US vs. UK copyright law) it would have saved us all a lot of time. (The non-notability, was of course debatable, and was debated.) Perhaps you made a mistake also in the AfD nomination, if you were thinking AfD is the proper place to discuss a possible copyright problem that could be easily removed from the article. But you should not read more into my words than I say; if I say you or another user has made an error, that is not a personal attack, nor is it intended as one. -- [[User:SCZenz|SCZenz]] 21:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC) |
:I actually wasn't thinking of you at all when I wrote that; after all, your AfD nomination says "transwiki to wikisource" so I was under the impression that you thought it ''was'' legally in the public domain and you were nominating it for some other reason. I was thinking of Robertsteadman, who in my opinion maintained a very insistent campaign based on the convolution of two issues: 1) a misunderstanding of copyright law, and 2) his believe that the poem was non-notable. He was in error on the first part, and he was rather insistent about it, and if he had listened to the suggestions of others (perhaps the first time Xoloz suggested the problem might be a difference in US vs. UK copyright law) it would have saved us all a lot of time. (The non-notability, was of course debatable, and was debated.) Perhaps you made a mistake also in the AfD nomination, if you were thinking AfD is the proper place to discuss a possible copyright problem that could be easily removed from the article. But you should not read more into my words than I say; if I say you or another user has made an error, that is not a personal attack, nor is it intended as one. -- [[User:SCZenz|SCZenz]] 21:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:I certainly never said ''anyone'' shouldn't have expressed an opinion, but I continue to maintain that the assertion the poem was a copy-vio was a clear error from the start—unless [[Wikipedia:Public domain]] was wrong, and then it should have been hashed out there first with interested users who (presumably) know a bit about copyright law. That is what I intended to say the first time, and I do not believe it is a personal attack; if you think it is, I would be interested to hear why and perhaps I'll reconsider. -- [[User:SCZenz|SCZenz]] 21:13, 18 June 2006 (UTC) |
:I certainly never said ''anyone'' shouldn't have expressed an opinion, but I continue to maintain that the assertion the poem was a copy-vio was a clear error from the start—unless [[Wikipedia:Public domain]] was wrong, and then it should have been hashed out there first with interested users who (presumably) know a bit about copyright law. That is what I intended to say the first time, and I do not believe it is a personal attack; if you think it is, I would be interested to hear why and perhaps I'll reconsider. -- [[User:SCZenz|SCZenz]] 21:13, 18 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Vandalism?????
I have eddited no pages. I dont know what you are talking about I'm sorry
I am the copy write holder
For your information I am the copywrite holder for CHOSA. But I will leave the artical as minimal as possible.
JP cartoon "victims"
Since you've warned to block me indefinitely should I recreate the page in any fashion, I'd like to ask you, whether you'd agree if I'd follow Joes advice and use his title for my page. If you wish, I'll blank out the names of the admins as well. Can you live with that? Raphael1 00:17, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Please let me explain, why I feel the need to make this list: This list would point out the results, when administrators enforce Februarys poll results by blocking editors who ignore those polls. I don't like those consequences, and they are actually in conflict with WP:NBD
- In order to reach the best possible decisions, we hold it important to listen carefully to each other's arguments, and to try to find mutually acceptable solutions in conflicts. Polls are the exception and not the rule, and where they do exist they are not binding.
- and WP:CON
- Precise numbers for "supermajority" are hard to establish, and Wikipedia is not a majoritarian democracy, so simple vote-counting should never be the key part of the interpretation of a debate. When supermajority voting is used, it should be seen as a process of 'testing' for consensus, rather than reaching consensus. The stated outcome is the best judgment of the facilitator, often an admin. If there is strong disagreement with the outcome from the Wikipedia community, it is clear that consensus has not been reached.
- Do you have any suggestion for an inoffensive title for the list? Raphael1 02:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- May I regard your silence as consent? How about the title "Consequences of enforcing Februarys poll results"? Raphael1 12:54, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
usernameblock
Hi Zoe, how do I report a possible {{usernameblock} candidate? It's User:Ricardo Lagos (former Chilean president). He has been editing Ricardo Lagos, engaged on vandalism and personal attacks agaist another user who warned him. Regards, E Asterion u talking to me? 00:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Ricardo Lagos has been repeatedly vandalizing, and when I reverted his massive vandalism, he tried to add it to BJAODN. If he's up to it again, it's time for him to be blocked. User:Zoe|(talk) 01:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. An admin blocked him for now. I found him funnily disturbing. There are some weird people out there...E Asterion u talking to me? 08:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
My RfA
Thank you for the trust that you had in me when you supported my Request for Adminship. The nomination ended successfully and I am actually overwhelmed by the support that I received. Thanks again! -- Kim van der Linde at venus 07:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
3 rv rule redirect.
Sorry. I just thought it would be easier to go to this page that way. If it is causing problems or i have done something wrong, please delete it. I was just trying to find the three revert rule page as a person has been vandalising the autism and aspergers pages, amongst others. Actually can you do anything about them. They are from IP 70.142.153.51 Simply south 20:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I will try WP:3RR in future. Thanks for the shortcut. I must remember that when creating redirects, not to do them to pages with Wikipedia at the start or other such pages. Simply south 21:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Your proposed deletion of my first entry to Wikipedia :The res3ia Enigma
Hi there
Could you enlighten me as to what exactly is wrong with my entry. Having used Wikipedia for some time, I thought I would make a contribution of my own, only to discover that you had recommended it for deletion within moments.
science_watch
Your article Porto-Novo
Hi, I have recieved an email from a reader about the article Porto-Novo. He noticed that article looks a lot like this article. Even more when your compare it with the the first version of the Wikipedia version. According that website the text of Porto-Novo comes from the "The Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia". You seem to be creator of that article. Do you know how this can be? Greetings, --Walter 22:50, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- I've never heard of allrefer.com, so I know I didn't copy it from there. This article was created in my earliest days on Wikipedia, but I really do not remember where the informatin came from. I'm sure I got it from several different online sites, the Columbia Encyclopedia may have been one of them, but I don't think I would have copied it verbatim. I honestly do not remember my source. Do you want to rewrite it? Or else I can, if you think it needs to be. User:Zoe|(talk) 20:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- When you compare the first version of Porto-Novo with the version of Porto-Novo from the Columbia Encyclopedia is clear the are almost the same. Only the Wikipedia-version is a redused version.
- I think tr best way to resolve this if you would make a new article from scrach. Posibly a stub. And when that is done delete the article and directly restore it again with only the last edits of the history. Problem gone. --Walter 22:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- Would this be a copyright problem concerning the other edits that have been done since my first version? User:Zoe|(talk) 22:42, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- The original version of the article is copyrighted by the Columbia Encyclopedia. All versions after that from the same source are also illegal. The current article is using a free licence while it has not right to be under the GNU/FDL. If you prefer I can use the VFD-procedure. I have contacted you directly to avoid that so it can be arranged more discretely. --Walter 21:11, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm not trying to duck any responsibility, I just wanted to make sure that there would be no problems in doing as you suggest. I will take care of it, I just have to do some research. But as long as there are no copyright issues involved in deleting it and starting fresh, I will do so. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:13, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Could you take a look at User:Zoe/Porto-Novo and let me know what you think? User:Zoe|(talk) 02:46, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- The EN wikipedia is not my home-wiki. I can not guaranty that if you do that you do not get complaints/problems about it. If you are not sure you should use the VFD-procedure or whatever procedure there is to deal with copyright problems.
- The new version looks very good. --Walter 08:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Since you previously showed interest in the former proposed policy Wikiethics, I'd like to inform you about this deletion review. Raphael1 15:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
mayo, deletion
riiiiight. sorry, now i get it. i'll come back when america knows who i am.
why can't i make a page about myself or people i know if its true?
- Because we don't know if it's true. Please read WP:OR. Thanks for trying to help. --mboverload@ 23:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
AlternC and ASM.....and cPanel and Plesk
I'm a student at Umass Lowell, and I work for The Community Software Lab-->CSL I'm unsure as to why you deleted my pages for AlternC and ASM on account of advertising... They are extensions of Control panel(Web hosting) please tell me why the content is wrong, and the difference between my pages and cPanel and Plesk thank you.
Manny 03:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Please Advise
[1]Haizum 04:02, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Wheel War
You do realize a wheel war requires more than one action? The fact is the block was ridiculous. If I went around blocking everyone for a week every time they told me I was stupid or abusive or didn't deserve to be an admin because I blocked over an edit war, there would be hundereds of people blocked each week in that manner. He was asked several times to reduce the block and after 2 days, decided another 8 would be enough. 10 days for what? Please review the situation before jumping on someone for a non-existant wheel war. Shell babelfish 12:21, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Hawthorne Caballeros Drum and Bugle Corps
Why would you have deleted this page? It was empty but at least it was a start. --JimBurnell 20:43, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, I'm still a newbie for Wikipedia, so I'm not sure whether our conversation should be on your talk page or on mine. In any case, yes, the content that you mentioned was vandalism, but not grounds for deleting the entire article. It was empty but it was a framework to be filled in later at least. Is there a way to resurrect it? --JimBurnell 20:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Request for Arbitration re: Raphael1
Hello Zoe, you may want to add yourself to this request for arbitration begun by User:Cyde after User:Raphael1 recreated his infamous list (and left Cyde and Pegasus1138's names in a historical version). Netscott 02:32, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- Zoe, it's good to see your participation on this ArbCom case. One thing that I'm not seeing in the arbitration statements is a link to the WP:ANI discussion concerning User:Raphael1's block for spamming and activities concerning the deletion of his original "hit" list. You might want to add that and "exhausting the community's patience" to your statement just for clarity's sake. Cheers. Netscott 17:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
You issued me a temporary block? You've never blocked me before our unfortunate missunderstanding regarding the title of my user page. See [2] Raphael1 17:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I was typing a message but got conflicted by a pagemove vandal. Anyhow, the above user has again been blocked for disruption to current sports events. Do you believe arbitration should be filed? RFC's not produced any results, as I'm sure you know. NSLE (T+C) at 08:17 UTC (2006-06-08)
- Should we file it now, or give him one last chance to change his ways after his most recent block? NSLE (T+C) at 10:39 UTC (2006-06-09)
- Just as you typed that, I blocked him a further 48 hours for resuming his bad habits. ;) NSLE (T+C) at 16:15 UTC (2006-06-09)
- Sigh... quote an email he sent me:
NSLE (T+C) at 05:22 UTC (2006-06-10)Go take a look at the past sports pages (since February) and see that recaps are italicized. If you don't like it, shove it up your mothrerfucking ass.
- Apologies for insinuating myself into this discussion. An RfAR might be necessary, inasmuch as NN, concomitant to his valuable edits, disrupts certain sports-related pages significantly; I'm honestly not certain that we can characterize the net effect of his contributions as constructive. I must say that I'm genuinely surprised at the incivility of his reply to NSLE; I always thought that his ostensible intransigence stemmed primarily from ignorance of policy and an inability properly to understand the entreaties others made to him on his talk page and at the RfC, but it seems that he well understands that many of his edits are unencyclopedic and simply doesn't care. His unwillingness to collaborate or to listen to the suggestions of others is most unfortunate and leads one to wonder whether he properly appreciates the nature of the project. Joe 05:40, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
- Sigh... quote an email he sent me:
Arbcom discussion
Hi Zoe. It seems others are commenting too. There doesn't seem to be a formal talk page related to the case yet; could you please point me to the rules about this? — JEREMY 02:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- I see; fair enough. Given there's nowhere else for me to clarify the situation re. the GA rules, however, I'll leave the comment as is and hope the clerks refactor it appropriately. — JEREMY 02:15, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Vlad III Dracula
It was the real person. The Wookieepedian 18:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- I haven't actually seen the episode in question, as it isn't currently available on home video, but the IMDb lists the real person. I'm not sure how this is either, but he apparently appears in an episode entitled "Transylvania, January 1918". The Wookieepedian 18:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Fir0002's sig
Just to let you know he did remove the external link as soon as I pointed it out at the start of the RFA (see User_talk:Fir0002#Questions). Petros471 21:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Johnleemk | Talk 11:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Same here... what vandalism?
Hello, My ISP switched my ip 2-3 days ago.... (stupid dynamic ip...) oh well, when did this incident happen? Was it an anonymous edit? Note: I haven't "logged" on to wikipedia for several months... heres your message:
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. User:Zoe|(talk) 03:59, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Cheers,
Ryan
Article Un-redirect
If an article went on Afd and consensus was to redirect to another article, what's the best place to go for a user afterwards to get the page reinstated? For deleted pages WP:DRV would be the right place, but since the page wasn't actually deleted I'm not sure what the correct procedure is. -- Hirudo 15:15, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- I've given my thoughts on the same question here. I'd be interested in seeing Zoe's take on it too, so Zoe may or may not want to read what I said first... :) ++Lar: t/c 15:35, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- Can you tell me what article you're talking about? I would have to know the history of the AfD discussion and see what sort of content you plan on re-adding to remove the redirect. User:Zoe|(talk) 15:37, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- See Lar's link above for my reply to him with the details. (Also, please reply either on his page or here instead of on my page. I hate split discussions. Thanks) -- Hirudo 15:41, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't see any reply on Lar's page. User:Zoe|(talk) 15:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- My bad. Didn't notice I got an edit conflict when I tried to submit it. Should be there now -- Hirudo 15:45, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't see any reply on Lar's page. User:Zoe|(talk) 15:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- See Lar's link above for my reply to him with the details. (Also, please reply either on his page or here instead of on my page. I hate split discussions. Thanks) -- Hirudo 15:41, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Lyrics
Oh, sorry. I just thought that was the whole point of the article. Sorry. But, Since they are copyrighted why do the other Sonic The Hedgehog game songs have lyrics?
These song pages have lyrics
Open Your Heart (Sonic Adventure)
Nordwave should be included in Winkepedia
Nordwave should be included in Winkepedia.I was adding Nordwave to the list of groups that would fall into that category.I do agree with you assesment of th Protocols page.Next time I will include refernces to any changes I make.
help me
i , paydenmac34, would like to delete the riot bros. and payden durham pages, can you delete it for me.
p.s. i am payden durham, and am deeply sorry!!!!!!!!1
Message
Thanks, I'm actually pretty new to this Wikipedia stuff, so thank your for helping me out.
Messages
Ok thanks. UnDeRsCoRe 20:59, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Raphael1 RFAR
Just so you know, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1 is going to be entering the voting stage soon. Since you are listed as an involved party you most likely will want to add your statement to the evidence page before the evidence period ends. --Cyde↔Weys 17:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Deletion of Don Voss
You deleted "Don Voss" because there are "thousands of college football players". That may be true, but there are not thousands of college football players who were All-Americans, played in the Rose Bowl, and also will be named to their University's Football Hall of Fame. Thanks for the lack of thought in deleting the article. Wiki is a waste if no one cares to understand what they are deleting. Maybe someone with football knowledge should only delete football players?!
Dissapointing. Done with Wikipedia.
- Please note that although I nominated the article for deletion, I did not delete it. The discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don Voss was properly concluded. If you disagree with the process, not the votes, you may submit it to WP:DRV for a rehearing. User:Zoe|(talk) 15:14, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
5000 copies
I'm still waiting for a policy on this statement. Where does Wikipedia say this on WP:BIO or WP:CSD? Zos 23:57, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Your comment Re: Mending Wall on deletion review
Can I ask you where I might have said anything that might be construed as a personal attack? -- SCZenz 19:26, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- I actually wasn't thinking of you at all when I wrote that; after all, your AfD nomination says "transwiki to wikisource" so I was under the impression that you thought it was legally in the public domain and you were nominating it for some other reason. I was thinking of Robertsteadman, who in my opinion maintained a very insistent campaign based on the convolution of two issues: 1) a misunderstanding of copyright law, and 2) his believe that the poem was non-notable. He was in error on the first part, and he was rather insistent about it, and if he had listened to the suggestions of others (perhaps the first time Xoloz suggested the problem might be a difference in US vs. UK copyright law) it would have saved us all a lot of time. (The non-notability, was of course debatable, and was debated.) Perhaps you made a mistake also in the AfD nomination, if you were thinking AfD is the proper place to discuss a possible copyright problem that could be easily removed from the article. But you should not read more into my words than I say; if I say you or another user has made an error, that is not a personal attack, nor is it intended as one. -- SCZenz 21:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- I certainly never said anyone shouldn't have expressed an opinion, but I continue to maintain that the assertion the poem was a copy-vio was a clear error from the start—unless Wikipedia:Public domain was wrong, and then it should have been hashed out there first with interested users who (presumably) know a bit about copyright law. That is what I intended to say the first time, and I do not believe it is a personal attack; if you think it is, I would be interested to hear why and perhaps I'll reconsider. -- SCZenz 21:13, 18 June 2006 (UTC)