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I was wondering if we could set up [[Template:R from abbreviation]] as its own template which puts redirects in the [[:Category:Redirects from abbreviations]] category. Currently the redirect to [[Template:R from initialism]] results in the RFA template putting all redirects which use it in [[:Category:Redirects from initialisms]] which I think is a problem because there are abbreviations which are not initialiams or acronyms. Stuff I saw in [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:R_from_abbreviation]] for example like [[PhDs]] (the h not being an initial) or [[Journo]], which I just added it to. I'm going to go through the WLH for the template and assign either acronym/initialism where applicable, clearing it out so we can hopefully use it for non-initial purposes. [[User:Ranze|Ranze]] ([[User talk:Ranze|talk]]) 21:04, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
I was wondering if we could set up [[Template:R from abbreviation]] as its own template which puts redirects in the [[:Category:Redirects from abbreviations]] category. Currently the redirect to [[Template:R from initialism]] results in the RFA template putting all redirects which use it in [[:Category:Redirects from initialisms]] which I think is a problem because there are abbreviations which are not initialiams or acronyms. Stuff I saw in [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:R_from_abbreviation]] for example like [[PhDs]] (the h not being an initial) or [[Journo]], which I just added it to. I'm going to go through the WLH for the template and assign either acronym/initialism where applicable, clearing it out so we can hopefully use it for non-initial purposes. [[User:Ranze|Ranze]] ([[User talk:Ranze|talk]]) 21:04, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
:Hello Ranze, let's talk to {{ul|Paine Ellsworth}} about this, because he is an expert on redirect templates. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 10:34, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
:Hello Ranze, let's talk to {{ul|Paine Ellsworth}} about this, because he is an expert on redirect templates. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 10:34, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you for your kind words, Martin! This sounds like a good idea to me, Ranze. There are also {{Cat|Redirects from letter-word combinations}} plus the "R to" cats and Rcats, such as {{tl|R to abbreviation}} with {{Cat|Redirects to abbreviations}}. Not sure how many abbs there are like "PhD", but if you do this, Ranze, it is important that future editors will be able to understand the rationales like "Why is this page in {{cls|Redirects from abbreviations}} and not in {{cls|Redirects from initialisms}}, instead?" and so forth. The definition of "acronym" is not always clear, as well. It's a bit of a hornet's nest that has been on my list of things to do for awhile, now. It would definitely be great to get some help with it! &ndash;&nbsp;'''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine Ellsworth</span>]]</small>'''''&nbsp;<sup><font size="1" color="blue">[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|'''''C<small>LIMAX</small>!''''']]</font></sup> 21:37, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you for your kind words, Martin! This sounds like a good idea to me, {{ul|Ranze}}. There are also {{Cat|Redirects from letter-word combinations}} plus the "R to" cats and Rcats, such as {{tl|R to abbreviation}} with {{Cat|Redirects to abbreviations}}. Not sure how many abbs there are like "PhD", but if you do this, Ranze, it is important that future editors will be able to understand the rationales like "Why is this page in {{cls|Redirects from abbreviations}} and not in {{cls|Redirects from initialisms}}, instead?" and so forth. The definition of "acronym" is not always clear, as well. It's a bit of a hornet's nest that has been on my list of things to do for awhile, now. It would definitely be great to get some help with it! &ndash;&nbsp;'''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine Ellsworth</span>]]</small>'''''&nbsp;<sup><font size="1" color="blue">[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|'''''C<small>LIMAX</small>!''''']]</font></sup> 21:37, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


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I was wondering if we could set up Template:R from abbreviation as its own template which puts redirects in the Category:Redirects from abbreviations category. Currently the redirect to Template:R from initialism results in the RFA template putting all redirects which use it in Category:Redirects from initialisms which I think is a problem because there are abbreviations which are not initialiams or acronyms. Stuff I saw in Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:R_from_abbreviation for example like PhDs (the h not being an initial) or Journo, which I just added it to. I'm going to go through the WLH for the template and assign either acronym/initialism where applicable, clearing it out so we can hopefully use it for non-initial purposes. Ranze (talk) 21:04, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ranze, let's talk to Paine Ellsworth about this, because he is an expert on redirect templates. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:34, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your kind words, Martin! This sounds like a good idea to me, Ranze. There are also Category:Redirects from letter-word combinations plus the "R to" cats and Rcats, such as {{R to abbreviation}} with Category:Redirects to abbreviations. Not sure how many abbs there are like "PhD", but if you do this, Ranze, it is important that future editors will be able to understand the rationales like "Why is this page in Cat:Redirects from abbreviations and not in Cat:Redirects from initialisms, instead?" and so forth. The definition of "acronym" is not always clear, as well. It's a bit of a hornet's nest that has been on my list of things to do for awhile, now. It would definitely be great to get some help with it! – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 21:37, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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