User talk:Skaterblo

Blade server image

Hi,

I noticed that the image Blade.jpg which you uploaded is tagged as "hardware logo". Isn't that wrong? The image adds much to the blade server article (so, if you have others... :)), and it would be a pity if the image were removed only due to an oversight about license info.

PS: you can reply here, so that we have the whole conversation in one place.

Thanks,
Gennaro Prota ^(talk) 13:14, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• oh good point, thanks for pointing that out. i cant find wnat tag to use with it though, (im relatively new to wiki) what tag would you reccomend? ^_^

Skaterblo 16:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• Oh, no problem. I'm not a veteran either :) I assumed the photo was taken by you. Did you download it from a website, instead? If so, please tell me the URL (or, anyway, what your source was), so that I can double check --Gennaro Prota ^(talk) 01:00, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

• I got it from http://www.hartwellcenter.org/bio_rescom/system/images/Blade whats your opinion?

• I think we should ask for permission if we want to use it (see Finding images tutorial). I'll try finding another, free, image. In case of failure we will ask (I don't see any serious reason why they should give a negative answer. Had I built such a machine I would be proud of the request :)). --Gennaro Prota ^(talk) 17:47, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

• Lmao true, I would be too. Any ideas where I might find the specs of wikis servers? And we should just ask outright, it would be better than a random found image. Skaterblo

• Are you thinking to the fact that they are probably blade servers? :) That's a great idea. I think you can ask Angela. As to the article I found other 4 images that could add much to it. Hopefully we'll get a permission for all of them, though that could require time. If we have the photos of the wiki servers and they are blade servers then better! The four images I found are at:

1. http://www.markiiisys.com/articles/ibmbladecenter.html
2. http://www.rackmount.com/Rackmt/ATXBladeS100.htm (the 42U rack)
3. http://www.rackmountmart.com/prodspics/rm8003-01.jpg
4. http://www.intel.com/design/servers/blades/sbxd62/pix/sbxd62_lg.jpg

Cheers,
--Gennaro Prota ^(talk) 19:35, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

• Those images are great, ill upload two of them, and insert them into the article. Problem solved :D {but what tag should i use :(}

• Sorry for being unclear. Those images will require authorization as well, just like the one we already have. I didn't find any image available under a free license. So the problem is not solved, we just have -potentially- more material for illustration. --Gennaro Prota ^(talk) 17:05, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

• ohps :( ok so where do we get the authorisation for these pictures? :S do we ask wiki, or the people who own the copyright/took the picture?

• Hi, I got a message on my talk page claiming I had disappeared and suddenly stopped a conversion. However it was an "unsigned" message coming from I.P. address 86.12.230.89. From the logs I guess it was you; anyway, even if it weren't you... I have still to reply here. Sorry for that, I just forgot. Yes, it's a matter of sending a boilerplate request to the copyright owner(s). It's all explained in the link I provided above (Finding images tutorial - Ask for permission), which also gives many canned texts for various usages. I haven't sent any request for now, as I've been caught up by various articles and things on wikicommons but I'll do that. I must do that! :) (I'm a little lazy when it comes to these sorts of things) --Gennaro Prota^•Talk 00:59, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

• Yes, the unsigned message was from me, sorry, I didnt realise I was not logged in. Have you got about asking permission for an image yet, or should I?

• I haven't. If you go for it please use one of the forms recommended at the page I linked to in my previous reply. Thanks. --Gennaro Prota^•Talk 23:24, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

• I've already asked the copyright owners of three of the images, I'll most likely have a reply in around two days. I'll keep you posted.

Going back towards the left margin :)

• Yup, thank you! BTW I have just noticed that the image would have already been removed if it were not for this discussion. See:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Blade.jpg&action=history
  --Gennaro Prota^•Talk 00:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Good idea, was getting a bit cramped :P

• None of them have replied yet =( But oh, thats intresting! I thought it had slipped through the RC patrol officers, obviously not xP

• Thank you for contacting Intel(R) Hardware Design Site Feedback.

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• Oh noes :(

• Do not give up hope, my friend. That's only from Intel, isn't it? There are other images too. —Gennaro Prota^•Talk 14:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

• I havent, ^_^ However, other people are taking their time to reply..

• In fact I'm under the impression someone quickly replied with a canned message, without considering that Wikipedia is somehow a special case. I find it odd that they can donate hardware which you can photograph yourself but will not allow you to reproduce a simple photo taken by them. Also, the message says there's a chance to get a written permission, which was exactly what we were looking for. One has also to be lucky that someone with a bit of common sense happens to read the e-mail :-/ —Gennaro Prota^•Talk 09:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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• That was the end of the email, I think it was a canned reply edited slightly.

• Oh, I see now :) They are not negating consensus. They are just saying that the procedure is to send a written request to the address above. Well, that's reasonable, after all, as they want their lawyers to examine the issue. I'll see if Angela is online. I think she knows if it is worth to send the letter or not. —Gennaro Prota^•Talk 19:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Done. I'm afraid Angela is on trip now, but my question is here —Gennaro Prota^•Talk 19:15, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Ok, good stuff - Keep me posted :) Skaterblo

• Hi Ska, you might want to have a look at blade server, now :) Oh, and Angela replied too, on her talk page. —Gennaro Prota^•Talk 13:43, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

• Yaay our struggle is over xD! I still havent got any replies from any of the other companies I emailed, but you did a nice job with that, so I wont bother nagging them for copyrights. Thanks for your help with this! - Skaterblo

Jesus/AID

Why did you remove the votes of (Evman2010 (talk · contribs), Eshcorp (talk · contribs), Lord_Eru (talk · contribs) and Petrichor (talk · contribs) from the "Jesus" nomination at WP:AID? Arch O. La ^{Grigory Deepdelver} 00:21, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

You can't tell whether or not a user is active from the color of their name. The name is red if they haven't created a userpage, but some active editors go a long time without creating a userpage. If an editor uses raw code for their signature, as Lord Eru and I do, then we can set the color in our sigs regardless of whether or not there is a userpage (but note the color of the Lord Eru link above, which is not part of his sig). The best way to tell if they are still active is to click the "contribs" link as above, although the definition of "active" can be subjective. Lord Eru is obviously still active; he revoted on Jesus, and has been actively voting on other AID candidates. Evman2010 made two edits, both on April 14; apparently no longer active. Eshcorp last edited on May 20 and is still active. Petrichor's last edit was on May 9, right after voting on May 8, and Petrichor was definitely active when he voted.

The standard for voting, though, is not how active a user is, but rather "To vote or nominate you have to be a registered user with at least one contribution that is not a vote." Presumably other voting rules also apply, such as no sockpuppetry. Even Evman2010 meets the minimum standard, albeit barely. Anyway, I also raised this issue Wikipedia_talk:Article_Improvement_Drive#Votes_removed_with_no_reason_given. Arch O. La ^{Grigory Deepdelver} 17:59, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I haven't replaced the votes myself. For one thing, I first wanted to check whether or not their removal was valid. For two things, I thought it might be improper for me to restore the votes, since I nominated the article. However, if the person restoring the votes is the same person who removed them in the first place, I don't think that there will be any doubt that the restored votes are legitimate. Arch O. La ^{Grigory Deepdelver} 18:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Possible copyright violation at motionless electromagnetic generator article

The article for Motionless electromagnetic generator said that it was directly lifted from another web page. As nothing on that page indicates that the information is public domain or otherwise freely licensed, Wikipedia must immediately remove the text and investigate whether it is a copyright violation, or risk being legally liable.

Because of the serious nature of a copyright violation, Wikipedia is very strict about disallowing the removal of the "possible copyright violation" notice from an article, considering it vandalism. Please leave the article alone, or if you wish to write a copyright-free version, follow the instructions in the notice that currently appears at the article that details an acceptable way of doing this. If you have any questions, or relevant information on the copyright status of the text that was removed from the article, please leave me a note on my talk page. Thanks. — Saxifrage ✎ 00:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

International copyright law

I read your comment at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2006 June 2/Articles, which shows a common mistake about copyright law. Everything that is created is copyright to the creator, and no notice is required. Quite the opposite: explicit permission to use a copyrighted work must be given or posted by the creator (i.e., a license), or they must explicitly release their work into the public domain.

There are some few exceptions, such as products of the US Governement and some others, as well as very old works that are not protected by current copyright law. However, these are very few and uncommon. Images, text, and all else that you find online is copyrighted unless explicitly marked otherwise, no © symbol necessary. — Saxifrage ✎ 20:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

What user pages are not for

You may want to read Wikipedia:User page and What Wikipedia is not #6: a free host, blog, webspace provider, or social networking site. The community generally grants a lot of leeway in what people put in their user space so long as it aids the project, but some of your pages are of questionable use to Wikipedia. Specifically, User:Skaterblo/An Encyclopedia and User:Skaterblo/My Music are not likely to be considered a valuable use of Wikipedia's computing resources. — Saxifrage ✎ 00:12, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright

The image that you uploaded, Image:Hennin copy small.jpg, is incorrectly tagged and is a copyright violation. The source website does not contain anything that indicates the images hosted there are free for use or otherwise released from copyright protection. Please stop adding images to Wikipedia from websites, because 99.999% of images that appear on websites are not free to use. — Saxifrage ✎ 18:40, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

• I'm sorry, I semm to be in a bad habit of doing everything wrong. Should i use this image, which is on the German article on Hennin? - Skaterblo 21:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

  There's a learning curve to Wikipedia, and that's okay. Sometimes the best way to learn is to try something and learn from the successes and mistakes. :)

  That image is perfect: it has traceable source information (though it's in German) and it's clearly in the public domain. And, it must be added, it's a nice graphic. — Saxifrage ✎ 21:46, 15 June 2006 (UTC)