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Admin Request

Hello Beth.

The Barnstar that I had given myself was while I was just going through the different things in Wikipedia, and had no idea how it would reflect. I had also not known that I would try and be serious about Wikipedia till some years back. I am a regular user of Wikipedia, or I might say, I have a start page in my office system for Wikipedia. Also, it would be be inappropriate to state that I have lack of understanding just because I have low edit counts. It is experience, and not just edit counts that a person be knowledgeable or understanding individual.— Preceding unsigned comment added by harrybrowne1986 (talk • contribs)

The incorrect use of Barnstars, low edit count, failure to make a nominating statement and not signing your post here together demonstrate lack of understanding. Regular use of Wikipedia is not the same as regular editing, and your infrequent editing and low edit count show you have too little experience. I encourage you to gain more experience editing Wikipedia and try again later, if you wish, when you have demonstrated your readiness for adminship.

Also, my name is not Beth. BethNaught (talk) 17:35, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

I Know your name is not Beth. However, I used it, in the course of it, being your user id. I generally never sign, as it is not in my habit to. I will make sure that I sign always, as I think it is one of those points along with many other, that people seem to notice the most, and point towards the most, rather than just understand. I have known that I am not a regular editor, also, I am not too good with giving myself heads up, "nomination statement", and that is why I was not a go goer. Hope, I have not been wrong in choosing my words. Oh, and thank you for the valuable feedback. Vielen Dank. Harrybrowne1986

Vandalism

Hello,

I hope I was able to assist your page by rolling back your version. I have no idea why your count showed 10 instead of 11. So sorry for that.

Danke Schön Vishal Bakhai 22:09, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Jane Egan

Thanks for creating the article :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportygeek (talk • contribs)

I'm glad it's appreciated, thank you. BethNaught (talk) 13:10, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

JUANES ALBUM

Hey I deleted all the content because, the page already have a real link is P.A.R.C.E. (album). Doesn't have sense have that page, if you can. Erase it :) Greetings from Colombia!

The place to request deletion of a redirect is WP:RFD. However I do not see that any of the criteria are met and in fact one of the keep criteria, that it aids searching, may apply, so in my opinion it is not necessary to delete that redirect page. BethNaught (talk) 19:41, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

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shotgun steven maguire

Hi beth

The nickname "shotgun" is a valid nickname, for steven maguire. I watch a lot of snooker and he is known as the shotgun.

Kindest regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.222.202.79 (talk) 19:34, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Please readd arxiv.org link at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Podkletnov

Please readd arxiv.org link as the article at springer.com will take $39.95 / €34.95 / £29.95 which is a bit much for such an article. Please consider to cite both the commercial as well as the open access arcticle. Thanks.

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Naomi Gonzalez

My edit was not a "removal without explanation".

The piece said she was named, by some source, among the worst legislatures due to her drunk driving arrest. That is not true. The piece lists three reasons. Either we should remove "because of her drunk driving arrest", or we should include the other reasons the link sates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tigercap (talk • contribs)

My mistake, I did't see your edit summary. I apologise. BethNaught (talk) 07:05, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

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Questia Online Library

I'm attempting to revise some old/out-of-date information, and add some new tools and services to the Questia Online Library page, which were taken down because they were not written from a neutral perspective. I understand that Wikipedia isn't meant to be promotional, and I tried not to be. Apparently I failed though. Could you offer some advice on getting the new tools and services added to the page without them being taken down? My intention is not to advertise, merely to inform. Thank you for your time and consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.32.191.1 (talk) 20:01, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

First, thank you for trying to update the article. I appreciate it that you did not add blatant promotion, as many companies would do. However, as your IP address is registered to Cengage Learning, you clearly have a conflict of interest about the article. Therefore it is strongly recommended that instead of editing the article, you add your suggestions on the article's talk page, so that other editors and review and check your proposals. Remember to include reliable sources: unfortunately, the reference you added in the "Service" section was promotional and, it appears, not independent of Cengage and Questia. (Note however that plain facts may be sourced to a Cengage or Questia page, if you take extra-special care to be factual and not promotional.) I will shortly make a "bare-bones" update, attempting to phrase your additions in a more neutral manner, beyond that, please feel welcome to suggest changes on the talk page (ensuring you declare your interest in Questia, for transparency). BethNaught (talk) 20:20, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

I have now made the edits. BethNaught (talk) 20:36, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Help! New World Translation...

I need help with page protection and need someone to talk to. A page that is near and dear to my heart has been vandalized and ruled like a dictator for years by someone and don't know what to do. Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fjjlee (talk • contribs) 03:09, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

If you want page protection, you need to ask at WP:RFPP, but you won't get it because you're involved in an edit war. The recategorisations you have been doing are subjective and won't find much sympathy among other editors, and you have kept removing content that is properly cited, because it said that someone has said something, not that is is necessarily true. Whether that is undue coverage you need to discuss on the article talk page. Repeat: discuss on the talk page.

By the way, there is no vandalism and it is strongly unlikely that the page has been ruled by a dictator. There is no cabal. BethNaught (talk) 06:44, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi BethNaught,

I am sorry that I was involved in this edit war. It is the first and last edit war that I will be involved in...

Thank you for caring about pages on Wikipedia so much that you want to make sure that they do not get vandalized. Because you have such a hatred of vandalism, as shown by your recent Anti-Vandalism Barnstar award, I am reasonably sure that you would want to know if someone was vandalizing a page, and that through their vandalizing, had actually gained control of it. If you could just give me just a small amount of your attention I could show you that this has been going on on the New World Translation page.

Please do me this honor...Fjjlee.

(P.S. Talking with jethro77 on the talk page will not help. He accepts no edits... :/ as is shown by the talk page. And I think that there is a potential for a cabal here. When both I and Jethro were blocked out of the page, the person(blackcab) that reverted it back to the previous state has on his user page that he is an ex-Jehovah's Witness. He is part of a movement designed to the besmirch Jehovah's Witnesses.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fjjlee (talk • contribs) 13:07, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Looking at the page history I see that Jethro77 Jeffro77 frequently edits the page and has had significant input. However, the few of his edits I viewed appeared reasonable to me (though I confess that I am a novice in all matters JW-related). I would be willing to check any specific diffs you could post to check for vandalism or tyrannical behaviour. (How to make a diff) Still, I noticed that it has been months since the talk page was edited. Maybe you should try again there - different editors might turn up, and I am now also watching the page. Another thing - I understand that you have concerns about Blackcab's neutrality, but unless you have evidence of them being anti-JW you should assume good faith and not accuse them, as that would only sour the civil editing atmosphere we attempt to maintain. Being an ex-JW does not necessarily imply he is on a crusade. (Again, send me diffs if I am wrong.) Thanks. BethNaught (talk) 15:14, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Fjjlee's accusation that I have vandalised the NWT article (or any other article) is pointedly false and should be immediately retracted. Very clear and specific reasons were given for reverting Fjjlee's edits. Fjjlee's claim that BlackCab reverted edits after I was "blocked out of the page" is a lie, as I wasn't blocked from editing the article at any time. BlackCab and I are two of four editors who reverted Fjjlee's edits, and neither of us were the first editor to revert Fjjlee (that was Editor2020). And there is no "th" in my username.--Jeffro77 (talk) 13:06, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Should I still assume good faith? Do they appear to be rationale to you, BethNaught? in my last comment I have done nothing but try to bury the hatchet. I Unfortunately, knew that this would be the sort of response I got because these people are diametric opposers of the Watchtower Society and desire to do it harm using Wikipedia and twisting the truth. Fjjlee (talk) 15:28, 15 May 2014 (UTC)Fjjlee

Calling stuff vandalism isn't burying the hatchet, Fjjlee. I suggest you read Wikipedia:The Truth - Wikipedia requires objective independent sources and is not for POV pushing. Adding unverified information, or classifying reviews, looks like original research, which cannot be accepted. I'm glad you've taken the discussion to the article talk page and I think the discussion should all go there. Jeffro77, sorry for misspelling your name. Also, be assured that since no evidence has appeared or been presented to me, I do not believe you to be a vandal. The edits summaries you gave for reversion seem reasonable to me.. Another thing Fjjlee: after Blackcab reverted you an IP reverted to your version. If that was you logged out that is Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry and not allowed. If you believe people are trying to do down the Society, you need to show why what they say is wrong in order to make the article neutral. Now I think it is time to wipe the slate, assume good faith, keep a neutral point of view, and discuss how to improve the article. BethNaught (talk) 15:57, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

I was talking about the New world translation talk page. Have you had a chance to read that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fjjlee (talk • contribs)

I have, and I am grateful for your improved civility there. But you should be aware that Wikipedia is not a place to do provocative things, and that citing personal experience is generally a no-no (as we need reliable sources and verifiability). Still, I hope to see effective collaboration about that article in the future. If you haven't already, you should consider reading the five pillars to familiarise yourself with how Wikipedia works. Thank you, BethNaught (talk) 15:47, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

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