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I have removed the section "Allegations of prosecutorial misconduct and perjury" from this article per [[WP:BLP]]. The source does not even mention Racicot, which means the allegations had no source in the article at all. I did a Google search and did not find anything better to verify this, in fact what I found first was what appears to be a blog called [http://montanafesto.wordpress.com/2010/11/05/injustice-marc-racicots-montana-legacy-part-ii/ Montanafesto] whose text on the subject is the same, verbatim, typos and all, as the section I removed. Thinking that we had both a copyright violation and negative allegations supported only by a blog, I then checked the source linked-to by Montanafesto (I love the name, by the way), and found a link to [http://www.servinghistory.com/topics/Marc_Racicot::sub::Allegations_Of_Prosecutorial_Misconduct_And_Perjury this page], part of a site called Serving History. On the bottom of that page I found some small print in a box stating "Some data may have been obtained from the Marc Racicot page on Wikipedia and used under the [name of license omitted]." So maybe it is '''not''' a copyright violation. It may just be one site that copied an apparently sourced, but not really sourced, accusation of wrongdoing from Wikipedia, and this was then picked up by another site. The fact remains that the material I removed essentially accused a well-known person of crimes and was (despite appearances) unsourced (not to mention poorly written), so it had to be removed. There is one article which presents a much more two-sided version of the issue in question, [http://truthinjustice.org/Barry-Beach.htm here], but I will leave for others to decide whether that can be worked into this article. The "truthinjustice" article was published in 2006, contains accusations by one organization with no indication of any official investigation, and I see no indication anywhere of whether or how that accusation was pursued or resolved. So even that article, which has both sides of the story, does not seem like a sufficient basis for putting this subject back into our article. [[User:Neutron|Neutron]] ([[User talk:Neutron|talk]]) 22:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC) |
I have removed the section "Allegations of prosecutorial misconduct and perjury" from this article per [[WP:BLP]]. The source does not even mention Racicot, which means the allegations had no source in the article at all. I did a Google search and did not find anything better to verify this, in fact what I found first was what appears to be a blog called [http://montanafesto.wordpress.com/2010/11/05/injustice-marc-racicots-montana-legacy-part-ii/ Montanafesto] whose text on the subject is the same, verbatim, typos and all, as the section I removed. Thinking that we had both a copyright violation and negative allegations supported only by a blog, I then checked the source linked-to by Montanafesto (I love the name, by the way), and found a link to [http://www.servinghistory.com/topics/Marc_Racicot::sub::Allegations_Of_Prosecutorial_Misconduct_And_Perjury this page], part of a site called Serving History. On the bottom of that page I found some small print in a box stating "Some data may have been obtained from the Marc Racicot page on Wikipedia and used under the [name of license omitted]." So maybe it is '''not''' a copyright violation. It may just be one site that copied an apparently sourced, but not really sourced, accusation of wrongdoing from Wikipedia, and this was then picked up by another site. The fact remains that the material I removed essentially accused a well-known person of crimes and was (despite appearances) unsourced (not to mention poorly written), so it had to be removed. There is one article which presents a much more two-sided version of the issue in question, [http://truthinjustice.org/Barry-Beach.htm here], but I will leave for others to decide whether that can be worked into this article. The "truthinjustice" article was published in 2006, contains accusations by one organization with no indication of any official investigation, and I see no indication anywhere of whether or how that accusation was pursued or resolved. So even that article, which has both sides of the story, does not seem like a sufficient basis for putting this subject back into our article. [[User:Neutron|Neutron]] ([[User talk:Neutron|talk]]) 22:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:Reintroduced deleted section. There's more than sufficient mention of Racicot in these sources to comply with [[WP:BLP]] and [[WP:NPOV]] |
:Reintroduced deleted section. There's more than sufficient mention of Racicot in these sources to comply with [[WP:BLP]] and [[WP:NPOV]]. Moreover, these allegations have since developed (e.g. see Dateline program). [[User:Anubis3| <font color="green">'''aNubiSIII'''</font>]] <sup>([[Special:Talk/Anubis3|<font color="yellow"><small>'''T'''</font>]] / [[Special:Contributions/Anubis3|<font color="black"><small>'''C'''</font>]])</sup> 18:58, 11 June 2014 (UTC) |
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I have removed the section "Allegations of prosecutorial misconduct and perjury" from this article per WP:BLP. The source does not even mention Racicot, which means the allegations had no source in the article at all. I did a Google search and did not find anything better to verify this, in fact what I found first was what appears to be a blog called Montanafesto whose text on the subject is the same, verbatim, typos and all, as the section I removed. Thinking that we had both a copyright violation and negative allegations supported only by a blog, I then checked the source linked-to by Montanafesto (I love the name, by the way), and found a link to this page, part of a site called Serving History. On the bottom of that page I found some small print in a box stating "Some data may have been obtained from the Marc Racicot page on Wikipedia and used under the [name of license omitted]." So maybe it is not a copyright violation. It may just be one site that copied an apparently sourced, but not really sourced, accusation of wrongdoing from Wikipedia, and this was then picked up by another site. The fact remains that the material I removed essentially accused a well-known person of crimes and was (despite appearances) unsourced (not to mention poorly written), so it had to be removed. There is one article which presents a much more two-sided version of the issue in question, here, but I will leave for others to decide whether that can be worked into this article. The "truthinjustice" article was published in 2006, contains accusations by one organization with no indication of any official investigation, and I see no indication anywhere of whether or how that accusation was pursued or resolved. So even that article, which has both sides of the story, does not seem like a sufficient basis for putting this subject back into our article. Neutron (talk) 22:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
- Reintroduced deleted section. There's more than sufficient mention of Racicot in these sources to comply with WP:BLP and WP:NPOV. Moreover, these allegations have since developed (e.g. see Dateline program). aNubiSIII (T / C) 18:58, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
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