Talk:Miss America protest

coverage

This received a lot of attention in the press, and was the first time that radical feminism achieved any significant media coverage outside of semi-obscure left-wing publications. Before 1968, "second-wave" feminism in the U.S. seems to have consisted mainly of government lobbying and the Betty Friedan book... AnonMoos (talk) 16:28, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Merger proposal

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The result was merge into Miss America protest. -- — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:20, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

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The article No More Miss America, about a single brochure distributed at a single protest, cannot be materially expanded, while this article about the Miss America protest is lacking content. The protest is notable and deserves expansion. Merging this related content here would help advanced that purpose. — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:16, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Not sure why you would want to expand the pamphlet article; it contains a fairly thorough summary as it is. Not necessarily opposed to merge, but don't see any strong need for it either... AnonMoos (talk) 11:29, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, I think that's the point. You can't expand the pamphlet article and it's not notable enough to justify an article of its own. Meanwhile, this article is also relatively short and could use more substance. Thus the rationale to merge the two articles. — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:25, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Origin of "bra-burning" Although it seems to be established that no bras were burned in Atlantic City in 1968, news reports mentioned bra burning. In 1968 a bra burning took place on the campus of UCW in Aberystwyth, This bra burning was inspired by reports of bra burning in America - this presumably was the Atlantic City event although the exact date of the Aberystwyth bra burning is not known. The large bra was difficult to ignite with a cigarette lighter and smelled strongly of rubber as it burned. I will see if I can track down other participators and get more details - my memory is a bit vague. IainWallace (talk) 19:11, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

It seems as if there's only a strong reason to merge if you think that the "No More Miss America" article should be deleted, but you haven't really directly presented a case for deleting that article.... AnonMoos (talk) 00:32, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

You seem to misunderstand what I've proposed. This is a merger proposal, not a request for deletion. I understand that you created the No More Miss America article and may be attached to it. Please understand I am not proposing that this very informative content be deleted, only moved and integrated into this, the primary article, Miss America protest. The No More Miss America article contains valuable content that could be found much more readily in the primary article by those interested in the topic. The No More Miss America pamphlet was produced by the organizers of the Miss America protest. It was not used at any other time and apparently has no greater notability than that offered it by the parent event, the protest itself.

The No More Miss America article is currently 5,568 bytes (5.5 KB); when it was created on 3 Sept 2008, it was 5,124 bytes (5.1 KB). After 3+ years, I think we can safely assume it will not grow very much in the future. The article is, after all, about a single pamphlet, which is in itself a very short form of publication. The Miss America protest article is currently 10,324 bytes (10.3 KB); when it was created on 14 May 2008 it was 1,540 bytes (1.5 KB). The first 3 paragraphs of the No More Miss America article are borrowed from the Miss America protest article, summarizing information already contained there. Were you to remove those three paragraphs, all you would have left is the list of ten points outlined in the pamphlet, shrinking it's size by about 25%. The fact that the No More Miss America article summarizes the content of the parent event is strong enough to suggest that the No More Miss America article about the pamphlet should be merged with the Miss America protest article.

Wikipedia guidelines for article length suggest that articles should be split when they approach 100 KB. Any article under 40 KB length "does not justify division". Upon merging No More Miss America and Miss America protest, the combined article would total 15.8 KB, still well under the threshold for considering a split. — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:35, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Merge. The two articles have too much in common, and one is neither distinct enough nor significant enough as a sub-topic to stand on its own. In fact, No More would have no significance at all without the main topic. Allreet (talk) 16:43, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

immediate cultural impact

The TV coverage at the time was quite dismissive and unsympathetic, from what is said in the Susan J. Douglas book. Wanting to ban beauty pageants could seem to be Victorianly prudish, while advocating against the wearing of bras could seem loose and lascivious, probably leaving many ordinary TV viewers confused... AnonMoos (talk) 04:35, 17 April 2014 (UTC)