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Text and/or other creative content from Melbourne Rebels was copied or moved into Melbourne Rebels (ARC) with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

It's a pretty minor issue - but this page should be moved to "Melbourne Rebels (ARC)" from "Melbourne Rebels(ARC)". Thanks. 121.217.240.119 (talk) 05:28, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Lightly cited, needs more for improved class rating. SauliH (talk) 00:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Melbourne Rebels (ARC)

Why does the Melbourne Rebels (ARC) redirect to this page? The Melbourne Rising and the Melbourne Rebels (ARC) are two completely different teams. The wiki page of the Melbourne Rebels (ARC) is an important stepping stone in the Melbourne Rebels narrative which shouldn't be completely lost. Can someone who knows what they're doing please reinstate the ARC page? Comes.amanuensis (talk) 09:44, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Look anew at Melbourne Rebels (ARC) redirection. The narrative has been kept and the information has not been lost. It directs to this page because this was the Melbourne ARC page. The page history remains intact. The NRC was widely reported as a relaunch, or reinstatement, of the ARC. Refer to Australia relaunches National Rugby Championship, or ARU to relaunch domestic rugby competition, and Australian rugby championship set to be revived next year. In the words of the Melbourne Rebels CEO himself:

I have been appointed to the commission to oversee the implementation of the NRC, so I have been heavily involved behind the scenes. I think it is a wonderful reinstatement of the Australian Rugby Championship from 2007 that should, in my view, have never been disbanded.
— Rob Clarke, CEO Melbourne Rebels, interview with Rebels Media staffer Pete Fairbairn, 31 December 2013.

To be clear, this is still the Melbourne Rebels-owned team in the national competition. The fact that the Rebels organisiation has chosen the name Rising for the revived NRC allows a clear distinction to be made from the Rebels Super Rugby team. Australian rugby is littered with examples of disbanded, re-branded, merged, and revived or renewed identities—see the histories of teams in the national competition including the Vikings, Rams and Rays. Despite differences including name changes and new management, the teams' identities are descended from their earlier incarnations. Separating the ARC antecedents will, rather than reinstate the history, split the narrative across dead end pages. -- Kiap (talk) 15:16, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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 Why does the Melbourne Rebels (ARC) redirect to this page? The Melbourne Rising and the Melbourne Rebels (ARC) are two completely different teams. The wiki page of the Melbourne Rebels (ARC) is an important stepping stone in the Melbourne Rebels narrative which shouldn't be completely lost. Can someone who knows what they're doing please reinstate the ARC page? [[User:Comes.amanuensis|Comes.amanuensis]] ([[User talk:Comes.amanuensis|talk]]) 09:44, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
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+: Look anew at [[Melbourne Rebels (ARC)]] redirection. The narrative has been kept and the information has not been lost. It directs to this page because this ''was'' the Melbourne ARC page. The page history remains intact. The NRC was widely reported as a relaunch, or reinstatement, of the ARC. Refer to [http://tenplay.com.au/news/2014/03/24/australia-relaunches-national-rugby-championship Australia relaunches National Rugby Championship], or [http://sportsbusinessinsider.com.au/news/category/financial-and-governance/aru-to-relaunch-domestic-rugby-competition/ ARU to relaunch domestic rugby competition], and [http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/rugby/australian-rugby-championship-set-to-be-revived-next-year/story-fnii0ksb-1226766890400?from=public_rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Australian rugby championship set to be revived next year]. In the words of the Melbourne Rebels CEO himself:
+{{bq|text=I have been appointed to the commission to oversee the implementation of the NRC, so I have been heavily involved behind the scenes. I think it is a wonderful reinstatement of the Australian Rugby Championship from 2007 that should, in my view, have never been disbanded.|sign= Rob Clarke, CEO Melbourne Rebels|source= interview with Rebels Media staffer Pete Fairbairn, 31 December 2013.}}
+:To be clear, this is still the Melbourne Rebels-owned team in the national competition. The fact that the Rebels organisiation has chosen the name Rising for the revived NRC allows a clear distinction to be made from the Rebels Super Rugby team. Australian rugby is littered with examples of disbanded, re-branded, merged, and revived or renewed identities—see the histories of teams in the national competition including the [[Canberra Vikings|Vikings]], [[Greater Sydney Rams|Rams]] and [[North Harbour Rays|Rays]]. Despite differences including name changes and new management, the teams' identities are descended from their earlier incarnations. Separating the ARC antecedents will, rather than reinstate the history, split the narrative across dead end pages. -- [[User:Kiap|Kiap]] ([[User talk:Kiap|talk]]) 15:16, 18 August 2014 (UTC)