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John Mutton

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WP:BLP of a person notable primarily as a municipal politician in Coventry. The city is not large enough to confer automatic notability on its city councillors, and it's one of the many English cities where the Lord Mayor is a purely ceremonial role that rotates annually among city councillors rather than having any executive authority in its own right — and the sourcing here consists of one reference in which he's only briefly named in a news article which is fundamentally about his successor as Lord Mayor rather than about him. So he doesn't get an automatic presumption of notability for either role under WP:NPOL, and the sourcing isn't strong enough to put him over WP:GNG either. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 16:19, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 16:26, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 16:26, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - specifically to Bearcat (talk · contribs) who has created somewhat of a strawman by focusing on the "Lord Mayor" as councillor, and ignoring the fact that he was leader of the Labour Party group within the council. Because Coventry is an urban area, it has tended to favour Labour, so being far from being "Lord Mayor" on a rotational basis, "Leader of the Majority Party", and therefore the most important councillor politically, does have something going for it that is conveniently ignored by the nomination. In terms of WP:POLITICIAN, the result is marginal, and may depend on sourcing to news articles; the result will be far closer than the open-and-shut case presented erroneously by Bearcat (talk · contribs). The presentation of such an argument doesn't really inspire confidence. Barney the barney barney (talk) 17:56, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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 :<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Politicians|list of Politicians-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 16:26, 20 August 2014 (UTC)</small>
 :<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/United Kingdom|list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 16:26, 20 August 2014 (UTC)</small>
+*'''Comment''' - specifically to {{user|Bearcat}} who has created somewhat of a strawman by focusing on the "[[Lord Mayor]]" as councillor, and ignoring the fact that he was leader of the [[Labour Party]] group within the council.  Because Coventry is an urban area, it has tended to favour Labour, so being far from being "Lord Mayor" on a rotational basis, "Leader of the Majority Party", and therefore the most important councillor politically, does have something going for it that is conveniently ignored by the nomination.  In terms of [[WP:POLITICIAN]], the result is marginal, and may depend on sourcing to news articles; the result will be far closer than the open-and-shut case presented erroneously by {{user|Bearcat}}.  The presentation of such an argument doesn't really inspire confidence. [[User:Barney the barney barney|Barney the barney barney]] ([[User talk:Barney the barney barney|talk]]) 17:56, 20 August 2014 (UTC)