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:#The Template does the calculations to determine which by Age category the AFC submission is in, however it takes a cache clearing or null edit to get the category to update if it's been sitting in a specific category for a rew days. [[User:Hasteur|Hasteur]] ([[User talk:Hasteur#top|talk]]) 20:34, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
:#The Template does the calculations to determine which by Age category the AFC submission is in, however it takes a cache clearing or null edit to get the category to update if it's been sitting in a specific category for a rew days. [[User:Hasteur|Hasteur]] ([[User talk:Hasteur#top|talk]]) 20:34, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


Thanks, I think I mostly figured out how that template works. It expands into a category tag that's dynamically generated by calling other nested templates, eventually reaching a Lua module that computes the text description of the time delta. But, do you have any idea how the category pages themselves get updated, if nothing is rendering the article page? I don't think the server software automatically regenerates every page on the site at any interval. Is there a bot that periodically sweeps AFC to re-render all the drafts so the cat pages automatically update? Or I guess it might just rely on the pages being manually viewed now and then, which would explain why the categories are sometimes out of date. [[Special:Contributions/50.0.205.237|50.0.205.237]] ([[User talk:50.0.205.237|talk]]) 18:40, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, I think I've mostly figured out how that template works, based on your advice. It expands into text containing a category tag that's dynamically generated by calling other nested templates, eventually reaching a Lua module that computes the text description of the time delta. But, do you have any idea how the category pages themselves get updated, if nothing is rendering the article page? I don't think the server software automatically regenerates every page on the site at any interval. Is there a bot that periodically sweeps AFC to re-render all the drafts so the cat pages automatically update? Or I guess it might just rely on the pages being manually viewed now and then, which would explain why the categories are sometimes out of date. [[Special:Contributions/50.0.205.237|50.0.205.237]] ([[User talk:50.0.205.237|talk]]) 18:40, 8 September 2014 (UTC)


As another matter, can you say anything about the review process? The first sentence of my submission is basically "So-and-so is the Joe Schmoe Professor of Somethingology at Prestigious University [citation]". This was designed to establish [[WP:PROF]] notability right away under criterion #5. That should get the article past AfD if it's nominated, which I thought was the point of AFC review. Is there still a lot of review needed, if the rest of the article looks basically sane? [[Special:Contributions/50.0.205.237|50.0.205.237]] ([[User talk:50.0.205.237|talk]]) 18:17, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
As another matter, can you say anything about the review process? The first sentence of my submission is basically "So-and-so is the Joe Schmoe Professor of Somethingology at Prestigious University [citation]". This was designed to establish [[WP:PROF]] notability right away under criterion #5. That should get the article past AfD if it's nominated, which I thought was the point of AFC review. Is there still a lot of review needed, if the rest of the article looks basically sane? [[Special:Contributions/50.0.205.237|50.0.205.237]] ([[User talk:50.0.205.237|talk]]) 18:17, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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Media Viewer RfC arbitration case - extension of closure dates

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Re:Trouting

Hello! You are quite right that I should have come to you before saying something negative about you to Dziewulek, and I apologize. However, I feel that telling a new editor that they have done "an exceedingly poor job" and accusing them of not reading what you wrote before telling them to "find someone else to complain to" is not constructive and is likely to alienate them. Just wanted to give you a heads up that you may be coming off as more harsh than you intend. Does that make sense? --Cerebellum (talk) 15:18, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cerebellum When you have users who clearly haven't read the decline reason, who clearly haven't corrected the issue that I declined for, who fail to read the edit notice (specifically If you're coming here to complain about an action I've taken (such as declining your Articles for Creation submission) please read the reasoning carefully. I try to leave enough information for editors to be able to correct the issue on their own. I will not be responding to any pleas for review here.) why should being brusk be a bad thing. Oh sure I could have been sunshine and rainbows out the butt, but that would have only encouraged them to continue in mediocracy, not go back and improve the submission. Also please note that the user did take my advice and improve the article. Hasteur (talk) 15:56, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, if that's your style then drive on. I disagree but of course you're free to ignore me :) --Cerebellum (talk) 16:00, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

AfriForum

Hi Hasteur, last week you accepted an AfC submission for the AfriForum (civil rights organisation) article, but an article about AfriForum (without disambiguation) already existed. Now the two articles need to be merged, and given that much of the new article is unsourced I'm tempted to just redirect the new AfC article to the old one. Let me know how you want to handle this. Thanks,--eh bien mon prince (talk) 00:10, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Underlying lkHowever you want to handle it, however the one I promoted out is imensely better so if you blank and redirect it, that's effectively vandalism and will probably be reverted, so I strongly suggest you perform a proper merge. Hasteur (talk) 00:20, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really see how it is so much better when much of its content is unsourced, but I'll be happy with whichever other solution you come up with if you don't agree with mine. Will you help with the merge?--eh bien mon prince (talk) 01:21, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Underlying lk Ok, I spliced the content together with a very large needle. Now regular editing can pare it down to the right levels overall. Hasteur (talk) 13:07, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Underlying lk Also you may want to visit Commons:Commons:Deletion_requests/File:AfriForum.png and give your thoughts. Hasteur (talk) 13:12, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I will, thank you for your help!--eh bien mon prince (talk) 10:06, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Greg Day Playwright

Hi, thanks for message regarding above. The Greg Day page went online some time ago and was approved. Picknick99 (talk) 22:35, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WikiKitteh of Understanding

Thanks to you and Chillum for reaching out and saying that, I really appreciate it. It's been a long time since I've actively contributed, but I vividly remember how easily people got tied up in the politics of WP. I'd prefer to focus on editing the encyclopedia for the time being... rather than getting a bunch of people into a heated dispute. Thanks again. BMIComp 01:20, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

afc technical questions

Hi, I'm wondering a couple things that the afc help desk doesn't seem like the right place to ask.

  1. I have a submitted draft making its way through the review queue. It's currently in "pending submissions by age" of 6 days ago, which I gather is not too bad given the current backlog. Question: suppose I make a few more edits to the draft today. Do the new edits kick it back to being a new submission at the tail end of the queue? I think it has reasonable chance of acceptance as-is, so I'm wondering if it's likely to be reviewed sooner if I leave it alone.
  2. I'm also wondering about the technical machinery behind the "pending submissions by age" categories. How do the drafts move between the subcategories based on age? I would have thought there was a bot updating the subcats, but there are no updates like that in the subcat edit histories, so then I thought maybe there is magic template code someplace that figures out the ages of category members, but I haven't been able to locate that by inspecting the templates that I've looked at so far. Any pointers?

Thanks! 50.0.205.237 (talk) 19:21, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In RE:
  1. If you edit it it will not go to the back of the list, however if you edit the {{afc submission}} template it will.
  2. The Template does the calculations to determine which by Age category the AFC submission is in, however it takes a cache clearing or null edit to get the category to update if it's been sitting in a specific category for a rew days. Hasteur (talk) 20:34, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I think I've mostly figured out how that template works, based on your advice. It expands into text containing a category tag that's dynamically generated by calling other nested templates, eventually reaching a Lua module that computes the text description of the time delta. But, do you have any idea how the category pages themselves get updated, if nothing is rendering the article page? I don't think the server software automatically regenerates every page on the site at any interval. Is there a bot that periodically sweeps AFC to re-render all the drafts so the cat pages automatically update? Or I guess it might just rely on the pages being manually viewed now and then, which would explain why the categories are sometimes out of date. 50.0.205.237 (talk) 18:40, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As another matter, can you say anything about the review process? The first sentence of my submission is basically "So-and-so is the Joe Schmoe Professor of Somethingology at Prestigious University [citation]". This was designed to establish WP:PROF notability right away under criterion #5. That should get the article past AfD if it's nominated, which I thought was the point of AFC review. Is there still a lot of review needed, if the rest of the article looks basically sane? 50.0.205.237 (talk) 18:17, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Case Opened: Banning Policy

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Banning Policy. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Banning Policy/Evidence. Please add your evidence by September 16, 2014, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Banning Policy/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Seddon talk 12:25, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]