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:I don't keep diffs about other folk, (that's for people who aren't here to write articles) but it is the fall-out from Jimmy Wales' speech at Wikiwhatsitsname in London and stuff on his talk page thereafter. He is doing his best to chase off content editors who are good, no excellent, but not sycophantic (rough northerners who tend not to be here on Mondays) and will replace them by attracting a whole lot more editors (I'm not sure from where) who will be compliant and politically correct but who do not necessarily have the same writing skills to dwell in his wikitopia. I'm a bit brassed off with all that's going on here and my useful contributions are diminishing and the sun is shining and I'm going out. [[User:J3Mrs|J3Mrs]] ([[User talk:J3Mrs#top|talk]]) 09:06, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
:I don't keep diffs about other folk, (that's for people who aren't here to write articles) but it is the fall-out from Jimmy Wales' speech at Wikiwhatsitsname in London and stuff on his talk page thereafter. He is doing his best to chase off content editors who are good, no excellent, but not sycophantic (rough northerners who tend not to be here on Mondays) and will replace them by attracting a whole lot more editors (I'm not sure from where) who will be compliant and politically correct but who do not necessarily have the same writing skills to dwell in his wikitopia. I'm a bit brassed off with all that's going on here and my useful contributions are diminishing and the sun is shining and I'm going out. [[User:J3Mrs|J3Mrs]] ([[User talk:J3Mrs#top|talk]]) 09:06, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

==Blame game?==
Boy, you sure comment on me a lot. Let's see, I had 1/3 of my edits reverted over a year by two individuals, was repeatedly insulted because people don't like what they think are my political views, had crappy a crappy bio written about me and even had a possible gun threat thrown about at me, among others. (Can't tell when material is redacted so have to assume the worst.) That's the kind of thing that stops editors - male and female - from editing. The sort of thing that led to the GGTF being popular in the first place. It's really simple logic.

By the way, there's a reference/rumor/joke I saw on someone's talk page last week related to your being Eric's wife. (Sorry, have totally lost track.) Just in case you want to debunk it on your user page if it's not true; or at least declare it publicly in your statements on his behavior, especially at Arbitration, should it actually happen to be true. Thanks. <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 21:29, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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Curious about a revert

Hi there, thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia. I was curious about your motivation behind this revert regarding me improving Wikidata and linking to it. I don't see any hurt in it, and this is the first revert I have experienced in my work with Wikidata and linking to Wikidata through Wikipedia. There's always a first time! I was just curious about your motivation and why you did it. Thank you! SarahStierch (talk) 18:04, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

An inadvertent click that I reverted when I noticed. J3Mrs (talk) 20:15, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

BNA Access

Hey J3Mrs. Saw your interested in British Newspaper Archive access at Talk:Pendleton_Colliery. We got some more accounts, if you want access just apply at WP:BNA, Sadads (talk) 04:06, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, might do that but not today. J3Mrs (talk) 16:18, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You should have an email from 3 days ago with instructions on how to register. Make sure you do so, Sadads (talk) 16:08, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for delay still travelling but just done it. Thank you very much. J3Mrs (talk) 19:40, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Curious about a revert - Peterloo

Possibly my own fault for touching the article but the edit(s) gave greater conformity between the article and what the supporting reference actually said eg the Guardian article is quite clear that readers were asked to write in about events in British radical history most in need of a proper monument. (VW Driver asking its readers to write and let them know what their favourite VW was , and lots of VW Driver readers saying they have a soft spot for the Jetta is not the same as - and therefore surely should not be reported as - 'a survey for VW Driver finding that the Jetta was the second most popular car in the UK') I would have thought no 2 'memorable but inadequately commemorated' event in British radical history was quite good enough notability without stretching the claim beyond what is supported by the reference

I am tiptoeing away from Peterloo as clearly a bit too 'owned' for my tastes (I only dipped in whilst fleshing out the 1819 Factory Act,because the date rang a bell) but I would ask you to consider why you feel more accurate reporting of sources is not an improvement, and so far from being one that prompt reversion on the basis of your verdict (rather than any identified non-conformance with Wikipedia requirements or guidance) is appropriate. Regards Rjccumbria (talk) 14:31, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It might be worth adding radical but that was wrapped up in other wordy language that didn't improve the article. J3Mrs (talk) 14:59, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In which case - as far as I recall - doctrine is that a rewrite for greater concision or more perfect style is the appropriate response. not a straight revert. I (obviously) didn't regard my edits as wordy and a word count on the diffs seems to me to show that your revert restored 28 words and deleted 27 (one of which you are now prepared to consider might be worth adding) . I have said I will tiptoe away, so I will not edit the article; however I would ask you to
  • correct the information in the article so far as you are able to bring yourself to do so
  • (optionally) do something about the continued use of the 'blue plaque' on the Henry Hunt Wikipedia article
  • reconsider your working methods (and in particular the willingness to revert rather than build upon)
Regards Rjccumbria (talk) 16:35, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As I said too many words now go away I can't be bothered to read anything longer than a couple of lines. J3Mrs (talk) 17:10, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know anything about the six chimneys ?86.128.42.255 (talk) 11:50, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Award

The Special Barnstar
Highly impressed with the quality of your research and effort you've put into St John's Church, Manchester which with some minor work should be approaching GA. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:54, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks but not deserved. Sitush deserves all the credit, I'm just good at getting under his feet and making work. He's making a fine job of it. J3Mrs (talk) 18:17, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Serial overlinker

Hi, Re: the serial overlinker we have both been correcting and warning. I have just been looking at edits done using one of his/ her alternative IP's a few days ago:- 109.157.192.215 and noted a whole raft of edits changing the location of current Greater Manchester locations to Lancashire. I have changed some of these, but then realised that an AWB script may be required to sift through articles and revert them, which I am not particularly skilled at. As you are part of those Location projects I wondered if you may have someone in mind who could do one ? Richard Harvey (talk) 20:44, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea about anything technical, I don't even know what a script is. The only editor who comes to mind is User:Mr Stephen who has also removed a lot of these county changing edits. I find the longer I'm here the less I know. Thank you for help with the serial overlinker. The GM project is somewhat lifeless these days I'm afraid. J3Mrs (talk) 08:07, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Richard Harvey (talk) 22:21, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

St John's

St John's Church, Manchester has been accepted as a GA. Thanks for all of your help with it. - Sitush (talk) 17:56, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nice one Sitush but if I remember correctly I mostly got under your feet. Well deserved. J3Mrs (talk) 19:05, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, you didn't get under my feet. There were a few edit conflicts but your input was invaluable. So put a notch on your userpage if you do that sort of thing. - Sitush (talk) 00:51, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You're too generous, I only put a notch when I've done most of the spadework. I take pleasure in seeing things like this improved though. J3Mrs (talk) 16:15, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's sometimes difficult to judge how significant your contributions have been even if you didn't put in most of the spadework though. I've pushed quite a few articles through FAC without doing much more than moving a few commas around for instance. Eric Corbett 16:29, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe but I think in this case without Sitush it would still be a stub. Great research in a short time. 16:56, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

"Content doesn't matter"

Your quote from Editor Retention talk: I've been feeling a bit brassed off since the dear leader decreed content doesn't matter
I missed this proclamation; without content Wikipedia would just consist of certain editors ranting at each other without distraction. This would be a pity and I hope we will all continue creating and improving articles. Could you let us know who made such a daft statement and where?: Noyster (talk), 08:05, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't keep diffs about other folk, (that's for people who aren't here to write articles) but it is the fall-out from Jimmy Wales' speech at Wikiwhatsitsname in London and stuff on his talk page thereafter. He is doing his best to chase off content editors who are good, no excellent, but not sycophantic (rough northerners who tend not to be here on Mondays) and will replace them by attracting a whole lot more editors (I'm not sure from where) who will be compliant and politically correct but who do not necessarily have the same writing skills to dwell in his wikitopia. I'm a bit brassed off with all that's going on here and my useful contributions are diminishing and the sun is shining and I'm going out. J3Mrs (talk) 09:06, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Blame game?

Boy, you sure comment on me a lot. Let's see, I had 1/3 of my edits reverted over a year by two individuals, was repeatedly insulted because people don't like what they think are my political views, had crappy a crappy bio written about me and even had a possible gun threat thrown about at me, among others. (Can't tell when material is redacted so have to assume the worst.) That's the kind of thing that stops editors - male and female - from editing. The sort of thing that led to the GGTF being popular in the first place. It's really simple logic.

By the way, there's a reference/rumor/joke I saw on someone's talk page last week related to your being Eric's wife. (Sorry, have totally lost track.) Just in case you want to debunk it on your user page if it's not true; or at least declare it publicly in your statements on his behavior, especially at Arbitration, should it actually happen to be true. Thanks. Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 21:29, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]