Talk:Seattle Mariners

Planned Revisions

• More in-depth history -- Jwinters | Talk

You could take the Bill Bavasi root, and just dump the stars without replacing them with anyone any good... But its mad that this article does not mention Alvin Davis -- GWO

Note: I made the original statement in the "Planned Revisions" section when I first started with Wikipedia. I've since modified it to better follow wiki conventions. -- Jwinters | Talk 19:18, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• I still think it's a shame the franchise history does not mention much before 1995. I'll have to work on something... -- Jwinters | Talk 18:15, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

March 25, 2005 Revision

I just did an expansion of the "1970s and 1980s" and "1990s" sections. I removed the last paragraph about the change of ownership because it was mostly inconsequential. I might add it back later, but I think if I did that for an inconsequential change, I should add all changes. -- Jwinters | Talk 15:37, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ownership history

I'm thinking that there should be a seperate section on the page about the history of club ownership. I know the team has changed hands several times, and that there was a national controversy when the current owner offered to buy the team, but I don't know enough about the early years of ownership to start this section. I think this section should mention things like Smulyan trying to move the team to tampa bay. They had maintenence crew at Tropicana field setting things up for the next season to start... this was early-90's. --Measure 06:13, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

Padres-Mariners "rivalry"?

Copying over some relevant talk from Gateman1997's talk page. --Measure 19:31, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

That one Ann Nonymous character has been inventing rivalries for all the teams. The only rivalry I can think of between San Diego and Seattle is that they are in the same time zone. Wahkeenah 18:16, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Hey... actually the Mariners/Padres rivalry is a 'manufactured' rivalry. Because there are some true interleague natural rivalries, such as cubs/whitesox, and MLB wants them to play each other every year, all the teams were assigned a yearly interleague opponent. Mariners and Padres were one of the assignments. So it's not a true rivalry, but it is referred to as a rivalry by MLB. Measure 18:20, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

I wouldn't say that makes it a rivalry however. If no fans, and no players feel it's a rivalry MLB can claim it is all they want... but calling the sky green doesn't make it so. Gateman1997 18:36, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with that sentiment... the rivalry is so fierce that the two teams share spring training facilities, leading to dozens of handshakes and for all I know, lunches together. Better hire some more security... Measure 19:02, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

Dogs and cats sleeping together! Mass hysteria!

The lightbulb finally comes on here in the northwoods. Measure's explanation points the way to a solution. We need to distinguish between "Historical" or "Traditional" rivalries (i.e the ones mostly generated by fan interest, such as Giants-Dodgers, Yankees-Red Sox, Cubs-Cardinals, Cubs-White Sox, etc.) and "Recent" or "Manufactured" rivalries. Having said that, it's worth pointing out that all rivalries are to some extent "manufactured" by the folks who run the sports, through franchise location and scheduling. Bill Veeck once fomented a rivalry in the American Association between his Milwaukee team and the St. Paul club, by going on the radio in Minneapolis and purposely bad-mouthing St. Paul as a city, figuring that the irate St. Paul fans would show up at Lexington Park to vent their wrath. He actually did that as a favor to the struggling St. Paul club owner... and it worked. But as Dick Clark said during the "Payola" investigations of the late 1950s, no amount of hype can turn a dud into a hit. It sounds like Seattle-San Diego falls into that category. Wahkeenah 19:15, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Current Roster

Why can't I edit the current roster? it just has the heading, then the subheading when I try to edit it.

It is a template formed from another page. You can find it at Seattle Mariners roster. --WAvegetarian ^(talk) (email) ^(contribs) 07:09, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

History

Mariners made tech history with their '95 ALCS win: it was first to be broadcast live on the Internet... Trekphiler 19:25, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

• That was an ALDS win, the mariners have never won an ALCS, just to clarify.Crd721

Someone should make a seperate page about the 2001 season

There is a breakdown of baseball by each year. However there is nothing about the 2001 season for seattle. Just a suggestion.

Espically August 5th, 2001. --Bopher1 08:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)