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The children of United States citizens are U.S. citizens from birth? Could someone explain the discrepancy and correct? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:MaximZero|MaximZero]] ([[User talk:MaximZero|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MaximZero|contribs]]) 21:29, 12 November 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
The children of United States citizens are U.S. citizens from birth? Could someone explain the discrepancy and correct? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:MaximZero|MaximZero]] ([[User talk:MaximZero|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MaximZero|contribs]]) 21:29, 12 November 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*{{u|MaximZero}} Prior to 1986, both parents had to be U.S. citizens. People born before 1986 with just one parent who was a citizen have to be naturalized. Groberg was born 1983. [http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents] [[User:Wikimandia|<font color="#0066cc">—'''''Мандичка'''''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Wikimandia|<font color="#6600cc">'''''YO'''''</font>]]</sup> 😜 21:34, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
*{{u|MaximZero}} Prior to 1986, both parents had to be U.S. citizens. People born before 1986 with just one parent who was a citizen have to be naturalized. Groberg was born 1983. [http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents] [[User:Wikimandia|<font color="#0066cc">—'''''Мандичка'''''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Wikimandia|<font color="#6600cc">'''''YO'''''</font>]]</sup> 😜 21:34, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

I think the law actually changed October 10, 1978.<ref>{{cite web|title=Volume 12 – Citizenship & Naturalization, Part H – Children of U.S. Citizens Chapter 3 – United States Citizens at Birth (INA 301 and 309)|url=http://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume12-PartH-Chapter3.html|website=U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services}}</ref>

3. Child of U.S. Citizen Parent and Foreign National Parent​
A child born outside of the ​United States​ and its outlying possessions acquires citizenship at birth if at the time of birth:​
•One parent is a foreign national and the other parent is a U.S. citizen; and​
•The U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States for at least ​5 ​years, including at least ​2 ​years after 14 years of age.​
Time abroad counts as physical presence in the United States if the time abroad was:​
•As a member of the U.S. armed forces in honorable status;​
•Under the employment of the U.S. government or other qualifying organizations; or​
•As a dependent unmarried son or daughter of such persons.​

The data on Capt. Groberg's father is that he was born in Indiana to a Swedish-born father and a U.S. born mother in 1938. So, unless he left the United States prior to 1943 and didn't return until after Florent Groberg's birth, Capt. Groberg should be a U.S. Citizen by birth. [[User:MaximZero|MaximZero]] ([[User talk:MaximZero|talk]]) 23:36, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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Naturalized US Citizen?

The children of United States citizens are U.S. citizens from birth? Could someone explain the discrepancy and correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaximZero (talkcontribs) 21:29, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think the law actually changed October 10, 1978.[1]

3. Child of U.S. Citizen Parent and Foreign National Parent​ ​ A child born outside of the ​United States​ and its outlying possessions acquires citizenship at birth if at the time of birth:​ ​ •One parent is a foreign national and the other parent is a U.S. citizen; and​ ​ •The U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States for at least ​5 ​years, including at least ​2 ​years after 14 years of age.​ ​ Time abroad counts as physical presence in the United States if the time abroad was:​ ​ •As a member of the U.S. armed forces in honorable status;​ ​ •Under the employment of the U.S. government or other qualifying organizations; or​ ​ •As a dependent unmarried son or daughter of such persons.​

The data on Capt. Groberg's father is that he was born in Indiana to a Swedish-born father and a U.S. born mother in 1938. So, unless he left the United States prior to 1943 and didn't return until after Florent Groberg's birth, Capt. Groberg should be a U.S. Citizen by birth. MaximZero (talk) 23:36, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ "Volume 12 – Citizenship & Naturalization, Part H – Children of U.S. Citizens Chapter 3 – United States Citizens at Birth (INA 301 and 309)". U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.