Talk:Driving licence in the United Kingdom

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Merge here of UK driving licence codes

I propose that the 'UK driving licence codes' article be merged into this article. The codes are for the licence, is there any good reason to keep them in a separate article? -- de Facto (talk). 13:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I merged it. -- de Facto (talk). 14:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps it should be "GB driving licence codes" in line with ISO 3166-1 alpha-2? Referring to the United Kingdom as "UK" is only done by the European Union. Chaz6 (talk) 12:30, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Not sure what you are saying. United Kingdom is England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Great Britain is an island containing the countries of Scotland, Wales and England. Are you saying that the codes in the table do not apply in Northern Ireland? --TimTay (talk) 16:36, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

To add confusion, GB is also the ISO country code that represents the United Kingdom (i.e. including Northern Ireland). --77.58.251.138 (talk) 19:53, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

No, I am saying that the international country code for The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is defined by the International Standards Organization as "GB" and not "UK". Please see [[1]] for more information about this. Chaz6 (talk) 15:04, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

B (Automatic) category

This is some what confusing. I have just phones the DVLA and there is no sepperate catagory of B (Automatic). A licence refereed to as an automatic licence is a category B licence with a restriction to automatic transmission cars. This explains why B (Automatic) is not listed as a category for European driving, see http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/vehicles/driving/validity/tourist_en.htm. This should be made more clear in the article. see also http://www.thehappybiker.co.uk/pdf-files/INF245%20Veh%20Categories%20on%20DLs.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.179.6.216 (talk) 09:09, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Endorsement codes

Neither here nor anywhere else seems to list endorsement codes and their meanings. Can anybody help with this ? 212.159.12.230 (talk) 19:09, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Moorland?

"but it is illegal - regardless of any licence - to drive on any common public land, such as moorland.[2]" - Moorland isn't necessarily public common land, and I don't see why you shouldn't be able to drive on privately-owned moorland with the owner's permission. Now I know the reference mentions moorland, but I suspect that it's badly-worded. Can someone clarify if this is true? The same thing applies to footpaths and bridleways (it must be legal to drive on a bridleway if you own it - there's one going through my parents' drive, and I presume it's legal for them to drive onto their drive!) Riedquat (talk) 20:43, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

The operative word in the act is "common" which applies to "land, moorland or land of any other description, not being land forming part of a road" which is intended to refer to land belonging to the Crown to which the public have access. The purpose of the legislation is to protect any public who may be crossing such land from danger from motor vehicles which they would not reasonably expect to be using such land. The definition of "moorland" does include "unenclosed". The wording of an Act of Parliament is carefully considered, approved by both houses of parliament and therefore considered sacrosanct, so only the courts may interpret this. Of course, private land is exempt providing the public do not have access. The subsection referring to a "road" is defined elsewhere in the Act with reference to a "highway". Any "private bridleway" or private land is not, by definition, a "highway". I wouldn't worry about the bridleway going across a drive as the Act specifies exemptions including proximity to a road etc. If the meaning must be made more clear, feel free to add the word "public" or similar somewhere, but I feel the sentence reasonably describes the relevant section of the Act as is. It wouldn't be in the public interest to mislead readers into believing that it is acceptable to drive onto moorland willy nilly in the belief it may be private. --Driverdude (talk) 16:13, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

can i drive in uk if i have internationl licence (issu in india)

can i drive in uk? if ihave internationl licence (issu by indian gov.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daiwikgm (talk • contribs) 08:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Driving Ages Depending On Category

Many of the heavier cat of vehicles, i.e. D, DE, C, CE have a driving age of 21. The exception being that: You can drive these vehicles at age 18 if one of the following apply:

• you have passed your driving test and Driver CPC initial qualification
• you are learning to drive or taking a driving test for this category or Driver CPC initial qualification
• you are taking a national vocational training course to get a Driver CPC initial qualification
• you had your driving licence before 10 September 2009 - you must take the CPC periodic training within five years of this date

Or 17 if you are in the armed forces. Maybe the article should be updated to reflect this? The above information can be confirmed on the Direct.Gov website and/or the DVLA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.219.142.192 (talk) 19:43, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Images

Would be nice to have:

• The counterpart (old style and new style)
• The old red book
• Some endorsements.

Rich Farmbrough, 10:55, 31 March 2011 (UTC).

Endorsements - I have lots of those on mine. Good idea thought to post the rest. I had a quick look on the European Union website and the paper counterpart isn't shown. --Biker Biker (talk) 12:15, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Endorsements are at List of UK driving licence endorsements.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   15:11, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress which affects this page. Please participate at Talk:Driving licence in Australia#Requested move and not in this talk page section. Thank you. --202.28.181.200 (talk) 02:32, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

The Queen

Interesting point about her not needing a licence, but maybe a better source required. Also assuming she didn't need a licence perhaps she has (or had one anyway) for example perhaps she was issued one when she served in the Armed Forces during the war when she wasn't the Queen, especially given that she was in fact a motor mechanic by trade.