User talk:Yobot

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	I can't seem to find the error on The Flintstones (film series) page, but it's giving me that same error. I don't know what went wrong. DonJakes (talk) 16:26, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

JFK

Please check your recent edit at the JFK article, where I had an edit conflict while trying to post more military related editing there and didn't know what to do about your edit without losing the work I did. If its not too much of a problem, would you look and redo your edit there, sorry and thanks. YahwehSaves (talk) 22:35, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

A gentle survey for research purpose

Hello Yobot,

I am Bowen Yu, a computer science PhD student at the University of Minnesota - Twin Cities. Currently, we are working on a project studying the main article and sub article relationship in a purpose of better serving the Wikipedia article structure. It would be appreciated if you could take 4-5 minutes to finish the survey questions. Thanks in advance! We will not collect any of your personally information.

Thank you for your time to participate this survey. Your response is important for us!

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Here is the link to our Meta:Research page. Feel free to sign up if you want to know the results! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Main/sub-article_relationship

Babusar Polo Festival

Yobot! you have put an orphan tag on the page Babusar Polo Festival indicating that there is no other articles link to it. How can you say? Khesrawkakakhail (talk) 08:10, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Khesrawkakakhail If you check Special:WhatLinksHere/Babusar_Polo_Festival you will see that there are no incomings links for other articles to that page. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:20, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

• Magioladitisbut I can see some links. Anyhow it's a new page and I will make a lot of links to the mentioned page. Khesrawkakakhail (talk) 08:29, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Khesrawkakakhail when you create incoming links to that pages, feel free to remove the tag. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:30, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

• Ok I'll. Thank you Magioladitis. Khesrawkakakhail (talk) 08:32, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Yobot breaks Markdown examples by trying to fix Wiki syntax

In Markdown#Example, there is a table with examples for Markdown syntax. Yobot tries to "fix" an example for a Markdown header treating it as Wiki syntax, thereby breaking it.[1][2] – Tobias Bergemann (talk) 20:17, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Tobias Bergemann thanks for the heads up. I added a nowiki tag and this fixes the problem. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:25, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Romoval of non-breaking spaces

Your bot recently removed some non-breaking spaces from an article I had edited (Human settlement). That made two dates (like 17 000 BC) break after the first two digits. I don't see what the point of removing non-breaking spaces is, but if you're going to do it, then replace them with " ". But it's better to just leave the non-breaking spaces. They don't clutter up the code as   does. (Commas are not recommended for separating digits. See ISO 31-0#Numbers.) Eric Kvaalen (talk) 09:05, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Eric Kvaalen The bot removed invisible non-breaking spaces. This isn't good because editors do not know they are there. With,   or {{nbsp}}, they can be seen. 99.9% of these characters do not belong, thus they are removed by the bot. ISO 31-0#Numbers is irrelevant as it does not apply to Wikipedia. The page that MOS:DOB and WP:NUMERAL are found on applies to Wikipedia. They use   or {{nbsp}} and use commas to separate digits. Bgwhite (talk) 09:30, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

What difference does it make if editors do not know where the invisible non-breaking spaces are? If they want to change the date, they have to put in a space or a comma themselves if they want. It doesn't matter to them how some previous editor did it. I don't see why you say that 99.9% of these characters do not belong. Why would someone go to the trouble of putting an invisible non-breaking space in if it doesn't belong? Most people don't even know how to do it! I don't see why you say that ISO 31-0#Numbers does not apply to Wikipedia. I don't see anything at MOS:DOB that talks about this, and WP:NUMERAL actually says that you CAN use spaces (although it says they should be narrow spaces -- I see that one can use the val template to do this). Eric Kvaalen (talk) 11:23, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Eric Kvaalen Around 200 articles a day are found with invisible characters. They are not added directly by editors. Most of them are added because of copy/paste. There are also some gadgets/tools that add them. They do not belong as they are found in the middle of regular sentences, beginning of lines or other odd spots. What difference does it make? What happens if an editor does not want it there? What happens if it is added at a wrong spot? If editors can't see it, they can't understand what is going on and/or remove it.

Other group's rules, such as ISOs don't matter because they are not policy on Wikipedia. MOS takes preference over any other outside rules. It's one thing to use it on a complex math article, its another to have it on Human settlement where the average person will read it. That is why a narrow space is recommend to be used on math, science and technology articles. Human settlement doesn't fit that. We are writing to the average person, not to a scientific group. Your an American, is the average American more likely to understand "17 000 stars" or "17,000 stars"? Bgwhite (talk) 23:32, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Putting a space between the 17 and the 000 does not harm any reader or make it more difficult to understand! I may be an American, but not all readers are, and I don't think we should use commas to separate thousands. In a date, it won't be misunderstood, but in other contexts it certainly could be misunderstood.

If I put in a narrow space (invisible), will your bot remove it too? Eric Kvaalen (talk) 10:38, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Eric Kvaalen yes it will. Please add a visible version of this. Wikipedia provides templates such as {{nbsp}}. You can also take a look at Category:Inline spacing templates for more ideas. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:26, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Eric Kvaalen America, Canada, England, Australia, Philippines, Nigeria, India and Pakistan all use commas... all the largest English speaking countries. South Africa is the only large English speaking country not to use commas. You are doing something that 99% of the people reading it don't see normally. You should write to the reader, not to you. Bgwhite (talk) 09:10, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

We should stop insisting on our way of doing things, especially when it can be misleading to people from other parts of the world. That's why ISO makes standards. Another example is the way we use "billion" to mean milliard. For a large portion of the world, "billion" means a million million. Eric Kvaalen (talk) 09:30, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Eric Kvaalen Except the ISO standard isn't used in the English world. Your audience is English. If your audience was French or Russian speaking Wikis, then yes, the ISO standard is part of MOS. Your lack of commas is misleading to English speakers. Billion is used in English, not milliard. If you used milliard on English Wikipedia, then you are confusing people. If you used billion on Spanish Wikipedia, then you would be confusing people. This is why why we have MOS. This is why other disciplines (math, history, physics) have their own standards in books and journals. Have a standard format. When in Rome... Also see discussion below about person wanting UN format and not MOS. Bgwhite (talk) 21:26, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

{:The Manual of Style doesn't say not to use spaces as separator. Anyway, I'm talking about what English speakers should do in general, not specifically on Wikipedia. And by the way, "billion" was not used in the whole English world for a milliard until the British treasury caved in to the US back in the 1970s and then other British people started using the word. The confusing situation of today is due to different countries refusing to compromise and achieve a standard. Eric Kvaalen (talk) 06:56, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

There should be a space before %

The brochure of the International System of Units declares in chapter 5: "a space separates the number and the symbol %". So dear bot, don't remove it.- Ssolbergj (talk) 08:30, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Ssolbergj Wikipedia manual of style: MOS:PERCENT. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:01, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Appreciation on Wiki projects

	Appreciation on Wiki projects
	I appreciate you work but can you help me with Wikipedia articles<channasandeepanaperera> Channasandeepanaperera (talk) 13:48, 19 December 2015 (UTC)