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:One excludes the other. Let's stick only to the official one, in this case: ''de jure''. As for the category, the answer it's very simple: ''in its politics the Abkhazian authorities had Anti-Georgian discrimination'' there you have the relationship. [[Image:Flag of Georgia.svg|20px]][[Image:European flag.svg|20px]] '''[[User:Georgianis|Georgianis]]''' | [[User talk:Georgianis|(t)]] 17:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:One excludes the other. Let's stick only to the official one, in this case: ''de jure''. As for the category, the answer it's very simple: ''in its politics the Abkhazian authorities had Anti-Georgian discrimination'' there you have the relationship. [[Image:Flag of Georgia.svg|20px]][[Image:European flag.svg|20px]] '''[[User:Georgianis|Georgianis]]''' | [[User talk:Georgianis|(t)]] 17:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::Sorry, but we should also stick to ''facts''. The independence of Abkhazia is no different than the independece of [[Nagorno-Karabakh]] for example. Also, the category is definately inappropriate and POV. Another thing, out of all the [[:Category:Anti-national sentiment|"anti-" articles]], you decided to pick the only one with a title similar to [[Anti-Romanian discrimination]]. Coincidence? &mdash;<span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">[[User:Khoikhoi|<font color="">Khoikhoi</font>]]</span> 17:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::Sorry, but we should also stick to ''facts''. The independence of Abkhazia is no different than the independece of [[Nagorno-Karabakh]] for example. Also, the category is definately inappropriate and POV. Another thing, out of all the [[:Category:Anti-national sentiment|"anti-" articles]], you decided to pick the only one with a title similar to [[Anti-Romanian discrimination]]. Coincidence? &mdash;<span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">[[User:Khoikhoi|<font color="">Khoikhoi</font>]]</span> 17:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

:::Sorry but you contradict yourself. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Baku87&diff=prev&oldid=69748546 Remember that Wikipedia should include '''all''' POVs, including that ....let me complete for you: the Georgian one]. Since your afinity toward Bonaparte is so great I will sig for you like this [[User:Bonaparte|<font color="#FFFFFF" style="background: maroon;">&nbsp;Bonaparte&nbsp;</font>]] [[User talk:Bonaparte|<small>talk</small>]]<small> & </small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonaparte|<small>contribs</small>]]


:::geo, reality as of today is one, there is de facto separatist regime and de jure recognition of this land under the jurisdiction of Georgia. Russians have used genocidal methods to destroy separatism in Chechnya and actually killed democratically elected Presidents of de facto rule. Now its a colony of Russia again, with thugs and war criminal slike Kadirov. In Abkhazia, its other way around. You can not ignore reality, there is a de facto government who is supported only by Russia and some ethnic abkhaz. There is also de jure government (most of which memebrs were massacred on September 27) so lets avoid any confusions. Khoi already made it clear that there is de facto and de jure. If Georgian government regains jurisdiction over autonomy, there will be no more de facto and de jure. [[User:Ldingley|Ldingley]] 17:15, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:::geo, reality as of today is one, there is de facto separatist regime and de jure recognition of this land under the jurisdiction of Georgia. Russians have used genocidal methods to destroy separatism in Chechnya and actually killed democratically elected Presidents of de facto rule. Now its a colony of Russia again, with thugs and war criminal slike Kadirov. In Abkhazia, its other way around. You can not ignore reality, there is a de facto government who is supported only by Russia and some ethnic abkhaz. There is also de jure government (most of which memebrs were massacred on September 27) so lets avoid any confusions. Khoi already made it clear that there is de facto and de jure. If Georgian government regains jurisdiction over autonomy, there will be no more de facto and de jure. [[User:Ldingley|Ldingley]] 17:15, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

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Template:Trollwarning Hi. I responded to your email. :)--Kober 12:08, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your nice words. I really appreciate them. Send you another email. :) --Georgianis 12:10, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry, my dear friend. He promised to be back soon, and support us. :)--Kober 17:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

:)

Gaumarjos, I was delighted to read your massage, thanks a lot for your support and friendship. Im definately ready to work with you and Kober on georgian articles, and im sure we can make Wikipedia better. Im not intimidated by the attacks from Russian users of Wikipedia. They teamed up to implement their national agenda on Wiki and this is completely unacceptable. If i try to bring out the topic where their country is involved in imperialistic take over, they immediately attack by means of personal insults and so on. I dont like Putins imperialistic ambitions and neo-fascist treatment of Chechen people, annexation of Abkhazia, helping to provoke conflicting sides in Karabakh, helping Iran to build nuclear weapons and so on. But this does not mean that im Russophobic. On contrary, I have many Russian friends and I share a passion for their literature, art and music. Im still on Wiki and i will be glad to help and co-operate with interesting users on Wikipedia. I'll ignore all those users who provoke tension. All the best my friend. Luis. BTW are you new to Wiki?Ldingley 19:12, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi

Im not sure whats going on, who is Bonaparte? Ldingley 00:29, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I sent you an email. Ldingley 15:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wow great design :) Ldingley 16:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
:) LOL, yes, it's so great design! Georgianis | (t) 17:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Geo, this will aggravate Russian users even more and it would be imposible to co-operate with them in the future. We can’t use that name. Facts might support it, however, unfortunately due to circumstances here its not possible. Ldingley 17:58, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
this can only lead to direct confrontation. We are all tired of that. So Geo lest remove that proposal :) Ldingley 18:05, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK. -- Georgianis | (t) 18:06, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


This user supports Georgia's bid to join European Union.


Nice Box Geo :) I like it. Ldingley 20:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Geo. Your signature and userbox look great! You’ve done a great job on Georgia’s foreign politics section and other articles. Kudos,--Kober 12:19, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

massive pasting

Please do not paste the massive pieces from the outside sources neither to the articles nor to the talk pages. The reasons are as follows:

  • for the articles: obvious copyright issues
  • for the talk pages: adding massive chunks from elsewhere makes the dialog between the editors hard or impossible to conduct and to follow. Substituting the massive pasting by a link is all that it takes to provide the same amount of the useful info to all who is interested to read it (others won't read it anyway) but keeps the talk pages readable and useful for resolving the difference. OTOH, if people will exchange with the pastings of the megabytes of the outside material, this will not help to resolve any differences. The issue was previously addressed by ArbCom members who said essentially the same thing.

Therefore, I am asking you to remove your multipage paste from talk and replace it with a link to a source. TIA, --Irpen 20:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Irpen 20:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Abkhazia

You asked a question that is already answered by the article's intro, so I see no need to repeat what's already there. //Halibutt 21:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Geo

Maybe you should add those things in Politics of Georgia? I like your way of adding sources and references. But shoudl those things be on the Georgia country page? Ldingley 15:00, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, it should be on Politics of Georgia. But I do think that something must be mentioned also in the main article of Georgia. I mean that it has another impact on readers. Moving it to a secondary article will loose from its strong impact. But I do recognize it's right and good to move them from there. -- Georgianis | (t) 15:02, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I dont care for their adminship. I dont intemidate people with admin powers and scare them with blocks. Ldingley 17:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

About de facto and de jure, you can't pick one or the other, you have to have both. As for the category, what do the politics of Abkhazia have to do with "anti-Georgian"?? —Khoikhoi 17:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One excludes the other. Let's stick only to the official one, in this case: de jure. As for the category, the answer it's very simple: in its politics the Abkhazian authorities had Anti-Georgian discrimination there you have the relationship. Georgianis | (t) 17:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but we should also stick to facts. The independence of Abkhazia is no different than the independece of Nagorno-Karabakh for example. Also, the category is definately inappropriate and POV. Another thing, out of all the "anti-" articles, you decided to pick the only one with a title similar to Anti-Romanian discrimination. Coincidence? —Khoikhoi 17:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry but you contradict yourself. Remember that Wikipedia should include all POVs, including that ....let me complete for you: the Georgian one. Since your afinity toward Bonaparte is so great I will sig for you like this  Bonaparte  talk & contribs
geo, reality as of today is one, there is de facto separatist regime and de jure recognition of this land under the jurisdiction of Georgia. Russians have used genocidal methods to destroy separatism in Chechnya and actually killed democratically elected Presidents of de facto rule. Now its a colony of Russia again, with thugs and war criminal slike Kadirov. In Abkhazia, its other way around. You can not ignore reality, there is a de facto government who is supported only by Russia and some ethnic abkhaz. There is also de jure government (most of which memebrs were massacred on September 27) so lets avoid any confusions. Khoi already made it clear that there is de facto and de jure. If Georgian government regains jurisdiction over autonomy, there will be no more de facto and de jure. Ldingley 17:15, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]