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:That brings me to the other thing I think I used to bring to the table; I think I was good at helping newcomers find their footing and explain how thing work, how they should work but unfortunately don't, and what good strategies to deal with things are. More and more however, I was starting to get the feeling that I was the one who doesn't understand how things work here anymore. For a while I sort of halfheartedly fought that; My idea of how Wikipedia works or should work might not be consensus anymore, but since I figured I was right anyway, I could push that trough anyway. I couldn't. And the less I would do, the further Wikipedia practice and my theoretic musings grew apart. By now, I have no idea with how Wikipedia works. |
:That brings me to the other thing I think I used to bring to the table; I think I was good at helping newcomers find their footing and explain how thing work, how they should work but unfortunately don't, and what good strategies to deal with things are. More and more however, I was starting to get the feeling that I was the one who doesn't understand how things work here anymore. For a while I sort of halfheartedly fought that; My idea of how Wikipedia works or should work might not be consensus anymore, but since I figured I was right anyway, I could push that trough anyway. I couldn't. And the less I would do, the further Wikipedia practice and my theoretic musings grew apart. By now, I have no idea with how Wikipedia works. |
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:One could say that I departed from the project. You could also say that the project departed from me. Both are probably true. |
:One could say that I departed from the project. You could also say that the project departed from me. Both are probably true. |
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:That said, Wikipedia might currently in a state where I enjoy it more again. I'll see if I can pull the old edit bones back in action again. No promises though. I'm going to hold you to the beer regardless in the event I ever run in to you though, unlikely as it sounds. |
:That said, Wikipedia might currently in a state where I enjoy it more again. I'll see if I can pull the old edit bones back in action again. No promises though. I'm going to hold you to the beer regardless in the event I ever run in to you though, unlikely as it sounds. [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra#top|talk]]) 15:00, 4 May 2016 (UTC) |
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Reverting admin actions
If I believe you should consult me before undoing a block (or other admin action), I will make it clear. If I don't, I would appreciate a note, but if you believe I have made a mistake - I make plenty, though hopefully rarely with the block tool - just undo it. If I believe that undoing it was exceptionaly stupid, I reserve the right to slap you with a trout.
Recall
If you think I shouldn't have administrative rights anymore, I can be easily recalled, as outlined in User:Martijn Hoekstra/Recall.
Support request with team editing experiment project
Dear tech ambassadors, instead of spamming the Village Pump of each Wikipedia about my tiny project proposal for researching team editing (see here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Research_team_editing), I have decided to leave to your own discretion if the matter is relevant enough to inform a wider audience already. I would appreciate if you could appraise if the Wikipedia community you are more familiar with could have interest in testing group editing "on their own grounds" and with their own guidance. In a nutshell: it consists in editing pages as a group instead of as an individual. This social experiment might involve redefining some aspects of the workflow we are all used to, with the hope of creating a more friendly and collaborative environment since editing under a group umbrella creates less social exposure than traditional "individual editing". I send you this message also as a proof that the Inspire Campaign is already gearing up. As said I would appreciate of *you* just a comment on the talk page/endorsement of my project noting your general perception about the idea. Nothing else. Your contribution helps to shape the future! (which I hope it will be very bright, with colors, and Wikipedia everywhere) Regards from User:Micru on meta.
Do you want one Edit tab, or two? It's your choice
The editing interface will be changed soon. When that happens, editors who currently see two editing tabs – "Edit" and "Edit source" – will start seeing one edit tab instead. The single edit tab has been popular at other Wikipedias. When this is deployed here, you may be offered the opportunity to choose your preferred appearance and behavior the next time you click the Edit button. You will also be able to change your settings in the Editing section of Special:Preferences.
You can choose one or two edit tabs. If you chose one edit tab, then you can switch between the two editing environments by clicking the buttons in the toolbar (shown in the screenshots). See Help:VisualEditor/User guide#Switching between the visual and wikitext editors for more information and screenshots.
There is more information about this interface change at mw:VisualEditor/Single edit tab. If you have questions, suggestions, or problems to report, then please leave a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback.
Whatamidoing (WMF) 19:22, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The visual editor can generate wikicode with image options in your language. Examples of image options are "thumb" or "left". You can ask to change to options in your language in Phabricator. [1][2]
- Wiktionaries and Wikisources can now use the visual editor. It is an opt-in beta feature. It still needs development to work better with these projects. [3][4]
- ORES is using new models. Tools that use ORES' predictions can behave strangely. ORES also has a new API. [5]
- The visual editor now supports classical Greek characters. [6]
Problems
- There was a bug when you used keyboard arrows in templates in the visual editor. This has now been fixed. [7]
Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 April. It will be on all wikis from 14 April (calendar).- The wikipedia.org portal will get many small bug fixes and improvements. Most will be for the search box and suggested results that were added in March. [8]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 12 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topics this week are improving transclusion of templates for Parsoid and balanced templates. The meeting will be on 13 April at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. Because of planned work on this, you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for a short period of time on both 19 April and 21 April. This will start at 14:00 UTC and last for 15 to 30 minutes. [9]
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20:44, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 14 April 2016
- News and notes: Denny Vrandečić resigns from Wikimedia Foundation board
- In the media: Wikimedia Sweden loses copyright case; Tex Watson; AI assistants; David Jolly biography
- Featured content: This week's featured content
- Traffic report: A welcome return to pop culture and death
- Arbitration report: The first case of 2016—Wikicology
- Gallery: A history lesson
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can filter Special:Log in more detail. You can filter different imports and new users. [10][11]
- You can use Telnet to read Wikimedia wikis. [12]
- MediaWiki wikis can handle bigger file uploads. The new limit is 4 GB. [13]
Changes this week
- Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. Because of planned work on this, you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for a short period of time on both 19 April and 21 April. This will start at 14:00 UTC and last for 15 to 30 minutes. [14]
- There is no new Mediawiki version this week. This is because of the data center test.
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on April 19 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is shadow namespaces. The meeting will be on 20 April at 21:30 (UTC). See how to join.
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20:40, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 24 April 2016
- Special report: Update on EranBot, our new copyright violation detection bot
- Traffic report: Two for the price of one
- Featured content: The double-sized edition
- Arbitration report: Amendments made to the Race and intelligence case
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Wikimedia tested a new data center last week. This meant that the wikis could be read but not edited for 45 minutes on April 19 and for 20 minutes on April 21. [15]
- When the data center was tested, new edits were not shown in the recent changes log for 20 minutes. They are in the logs now. You can read more about how to find the edits.
- Unread notifications were sometimes counted incorrectly. This has now been fixed. [16]
Changes this week
- Wikimedia Commons will have better access to Wikidata. They can use data from any page on Wikidata on any page on Commons. This will happen on April 26. [17]
- It will be easier to choose if you want to watch files you have uploaded with the upload wizard. [18]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from April 26. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from April 27. It will be on all wikis from April 28 (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on April 26 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The "Save page" button when you edit will be called "Publish" instead. This is to help new editors understand what it does. It already works like this on some wikis. [19]
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21:02, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 2 May 2016
- In the media: Wikipedia Zero piracy in Bangladesh; bureaucracy; chilling effects; too few cooks; translation gaps
- Traffic report: Purple
- Featured content: The best ... from the past two weeks
A beer for you!
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Zeg, luilak, hoe zit het ermee? Kom, ga weer eens aan het werk! Drmies (talk) 17:29, 2 May 2016 (UTC) |
- Hi Drmies, good to see you're still running things here, and - provisionally, I haven't read any cases yet, and you don't seem to have seen much public arb action yet - extra happy you're on ArbCom. To me, one of the reasons for leaving this project was my mounting frustration of the departure from common sense into the direction of WP:OMGWTFBBQ. I hope you'll be able to, even if in part, turn the tide on that tendency. Ultimately though, the reason for leaving was that I felt my skill set was no longer very useful in the project anymore. I've never been great at writing articles, and I believe that really should be part of the skill set of participating in this project as I believe it should be run. If I take the opportunistic angle and make an exception for myself, I have to wonder, what do I bring to the table.
- I've always believed that I'm good at helping good faith people find common ground and work together - and recognize the good faith in each other. But so many conflicts seem to stem from people who aren't acting in good faith anymore, and little good faith seems to be assumed that I've found myself utterly ineffective in it. People also seem to forget what good faith means. The attitude of "I could report you to the admins, but I'm going to assume good faith and carry on the discussion" irks me in so many different ways, and was gaining so much popularity, I can't find a way to reconcile that with how I think this project to be run.
- As for helping find neutrality and guide discussions where bad faith starts to rear its head, I think I'm too conflict averse to do so effectively. Conflict is an important part of finding consensus, even when good faith is involved, and I find myself ineffective dealing with such situations.
- That brings me to the other thing I think I used to bring to the table; I think I was good at helping newcomers find their footing and explain how thing work, how they should work but unfortunately don't, and what good strategies to deal with things are. More and more however, I was starting to get the feeling that I was the one who doesn't understand how things work here anymore. For a while I sort of halfheartedly fought that; My idea of how Wikipedia works or should work might not be consensus anymore, but since I figured I was right anyway, I could push that trough anyway. I couldn't. And the less I would do, the further Wikipedia practice and my theoretic musings grew apart. By now, I have no idea with how Wikipedia works.
- One could say that I departed from the project. You could also say that the project departed from me. Both are probably true.
- That said, Wikipedia might currently in a state where I enjoy it more again. I'll see if I can pull the old edit bones back in action again. No promises though. I'm going to hold you to the beer regardless in the event I ever run in to you though, unlikely as it sounds. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 15:00, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The visual editor now works when you use Internet Explorer 9. [20]
Problems
- There was a security problem with the MobileFrontend extension. It showed information that had been oversighted. This has now been fixed. [21]
Changes this week
- You can now see which notifications are available on a wiki on Special:DisplayNotificationsConfiguration. [22]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 3. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 4. It will be on all wikis from May 5 (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is "PSR-6 Cache interface in Mediawiki core". The meeting will be on May 4 at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Pages could be added to new users' watchlists by default when they edit them. New users could also by default get email notifications when pages they watch are edited. This is discussed on Meta. [23]
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20:09, 2 May 2016 (UTC)