User talk:97.117.19.67

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Removal of other's talk

See wp:Talk page guidelines - Once another has responded, you shouldn't remove your talk nor the other's. You can strike out your talk with <s> and </s> strike out Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 08:03, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Oh, so that's the difference. 97.117.19.67 (talk) 08:08, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi

Hey; just saw you'd been having some trouble with users reverting your edits, and thought I would say don't give up!

While it ain't perfect, a lot of users who put in many hours come across plenty of vandalism, mostly from unregistered IP addresses, which I guess prejudices them against anonymous edits (especially on the Wikipedia: namespace policy pages, which need discussion first rather than following the normal WP:BRD procedure).

I totally get that your experience may come across as undermining the "free encylopedia that anyone can edit" thing, and what can I say other than encourage you to register and help change the parts of Wikipedia culture that you don't like from the inside; it can always do with more of us, and registering makes editing as a group much easier.

Either way, feel free to give me a shout, and or go and discuss this or whatever else at the "Wikipedia:Teahouse" where I hear editors tend to be much more friendly, positive, and relaxed. ‑‑Yodin^T 21:05, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi, friendly Yodin, thanks for your help, and happy half-century anniversary year of the Slurpee from 7-Eleven! (I'm not from 7-Eleven; just excited about this.) Go get a free "birthday" Slurpee (7/11 isn't really the company's birthday, but I can't find a definite answer of what is, even here on this site) for this year's annual 7-Eleven Day (7/11, at least in USA stores, between 11 AM and 7 PM, of course)! (I just get excited about big anniversaries like the 50-year mark. Whatever, it's free advertising for them that hardly anyone will see here on my talk page, haha....) This year for 7/11 Day they have a "birthday cake" flavor!

Anyway, thanks for your kind reply. What's dumb about editors like prickzi is that he ignored the fact that there is already discussion first. Besides that, why do they tend to be more biased against the anonymous editors instead of just reacting according to the content of the edits themselves, regardless of who put them there (like, "Oh, that's saying that the 'The' from "The Beatles" is not before the band name, but is part of it, so I'd better just leave it"), instead of just blanket-insisting that that same or similar edition must be made by a registered user in order for it to be valid?

What's weirder even still, is that just about a day or so after I did just register as Consistency is Key, I made a handful of edits and then shut things down. A while later, when I went to log back in, I got this weird error message:

[V4PWKApAAEQAAIrxM9QAAACM] 2016-07-11 17:23:53: Fatal exception of type "Exception"

And it happens no matter which browser or other system's IP address I use. How do you fix that?

So then I registered "Consistency is Key (web coding login error)" as a backup name to edit with until they fixed the original, hoping that whoever noticed it would get that the "(web coding login error)" part of it would serve as enough explanation as to why it's not a sockpuppet account, even if it's too short to be the name of the error itself. But then that one got blocked anyway, and even my longer explanations in there haven't yet gotten the thick-headed to understand why it should not have been blocked and why it should be unblocked, at least until they fix their problem causing me not to be able to use the original "Consistency is Key" account. I even posted a note @Tgr (WMF):, who has been able to fix that error for other people, saying that I now have that error too, but these "admins" replying on my talk page over there never paid attention to that before blocking me either! "Huhloooo?!" There shouldn't be anything wrong with my editing using that second account with the same name (but the parenthesized addition) until they fix their system's problem with my first one!

Anyway, one of them has now just asked me what the exact error message is, as if he has no ability to follow my contribution about it over to User talk:Tgr (WMF) and just notice that already. Pschhhh!

Well, how long have you been editing here, Yodin?

P.S. If you are where 7-Elevens are, don't forget to go get your free 7/11 Day Slurpee, especially since this year is the big half-century mark! (I know, I sound like I have a vested interest in 7-Eleven, but I really don't.)

97.117.19.67 (talk) 17:42, 11 July 2016 (UTC), now known as Consistency is Key.

The Cranberries article edits.

Thanks for clarifying the rules with the WP:BANDNAME article. When I made the initial reversion, I did so because it felt wrong, but I wasn't sure about it. I looked up some external sources but didn't find the Wordpress style guide about it. Apologies for the reversion, and thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Caidh (talk) 14:00, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi, friendly Caidh, thanks for your help, and happy half-century anniversary year of the Slurpee from 7-Eleven! (I'm not from 7-Eleven; just excited about this, just like I told Yodin up there, and you're welcome to be part of that conversation too.) Anyway, just like I told Yodin, go get a free "birthday" Slurpee today for 7/11 Day (at least where they celebrate the month-first date of 7/11), and especially this year, the half-century mark!

Anyway, yeah, actually, I started editing articles just like you were, changing the "the" from bands whose names start with "The...", because what you said makes perfect sense, especially where they say something like "a The Fixx album" (let me go try to find a better example of that later), which when lower-cased would look stupid, like, "a the Fixx album," etc., and they do follow that rule with other trademarks, and in fact, earlier in the talk page there are people who say that band names should follow the same rule as other trade marks, including those that start with "The," as in "The Home Depot." But until we can convince them that leaving the "The" capitalized in band names too would actually make more sense, so change the MOS to match, I'm going through all the ones I can find and making them consistent with the MOS rule, since (you probably guessed it), "Consistency is Key"! And these aren't the only things I'll watch for to help Wikipedia become consistent, of course.

Enjoy your Slurpee! 97.117.19.67 (talk) 18:10, 11 July 2016 (UTC), now intended to be known as Consistency is Key, but having the problem described in user talk:Consistency is Key (web coding login error).