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Numerous authors document the western banking interests funding the Russian [[Bolshevik]] Communist revolution. One such author was [[Antony C. Sutton|Antony Sutton]] in Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution. Following the 1917 Russian Revolution's success the Chinese revolution began in 1921 with support from the Russian communist, Mao having been educated for the position in the west. The video documentary [http://www.archive.org/details/NineCommentariesOnTheCcp Nine Commentaries on the CCP] covers the founded of the Chinese Communist Party and their Russian support.
Numerous authors document the western banking interests funding the Russian [[Bolshevik]] Communist revolution. One such author was [[Antony C. Sutton|Antony Sutton]] in Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution. Following the 1917 Russian Revolution's success the Chinese revolution began in 1921 with support from the Russian communist, Mao having been educated for the position in the west. The video documentary [http://www.archive.org/details/NineCommentariesOnTheCcp Nine Commentaries on the CCP] covers the founded of the Chinese Communist Party and their Russian support.


The world revolution continued into Korea with support from Communist died in 400 years with yearly months in january the North and Fascist America in the south. Today occupied Korea is not free as it once was. Vietnam was more of the same installing a Catholic dictatorship. Why Catholic? The world revolution is from the [[Military order (society)|Vatican's Fascist military knights]] (international bankers) who founded both Capitalism and Communism for a Hegelian Dialectic. After Vietnam revolution raged in South America, and continue today in Africa aided by similar Islamic factions. [[Special:Contributions/75.120.187.48|75.120.187.48]] ([[User talk:75.120.187.48|talk]]) 21:28, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
The world revolution continued into Korea with support from Communist in the North and Fascist America in the south. Today occupied Korea is not free as it once was. Vietnam was more of the same installing a Catholic dictatorship. Why Catholic? The world revolution is from the [[Military order (society)|Vatican's Fascist military knights]] (international bankers) who founded both Capitalism and Communism for a Hegelian Dialectic. After Vietnam revolution raged in South America, and continue today in Africa aided by similar Islamic factions. [[Special:Contributions/75.120.187.48|75.120.187.48]] ([[User talk:75.120.187.48|talk]]) 21:28, 12 November 2010 (UTC)


Often accused by the Socialists of being the leading cartel Capitalist, card carrying Communist David Rockefeller has perhapse done more to further the plans of the globalist socialist revolution than anyone alive.
Often accused by the Socialists of being the leading cartel Capitalist, card carrying Communist David Rockefeller has perhaps done more to further the plans of the globalist socialist revolution than anyone alive.


Chairman of the Board of the globalist Communist Conspiracy of the '''[http://www.cfr.org/about/people/board_of_directors.html Council on Foreign Relations]''' is David Rockefeller.
Chairman of the Board of the globalist Communist Conspiracy of the '''[http://www.cfr.org/about/people/board_of_directors.html Council on Foreign Relations]''' is David Rockefeller.
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The '''[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/rockefellers/maps/textmap.html United Nations]''' global ambitions were realized when land was donated by CFR chairman David Rockefeller.
The '''[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/rockefellers/maps/textmap.html United Nations]''' global ambitions were realized when land was donated by CFR chairman David Rockefeller.


Previously, Wall Street bankers including the Rockefellers supported the Communist Revolution that took Orthodox Moscow in 1917.
In support of the Communist Chinese Revolution David Rockefeller had this to say:

'''"Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history."''' David Rockefeller (about Mao Zedong in the New York Times, August 10, 1973)

Previously, Wall Street bankers including the Rockefellers supported the Communist Revolution that took Czarist Russia in 1917.


[http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution WALL STREET AND THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION]
[http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution WALL STREET AND THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION]
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The '''[[Group of Thirty]]''' was founded in 1978 by Geoffrey Bell at the initiative of the Rockefeller Foundation, which also provided initial funding for the body. The Group of Thirty establishes study groups to analyze issues of particular or systemic importance to the '''global financial markets'''. [[Special:Contributions/69.29.215.214|69.29.215.214]] ([[User talk:69.29.215.214|talk]]) 21:37, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
The '''[[Group of Thirty]]''' was founded in 1978 by Geoffrey Bell at the initiative of the Rockefeller Foundation, which also provided initial funding for the body. The Group of Thirty establishes study groups to analyze issues of particular or systemic importance to the '''global financial markets'''. [[Special:Contributions/69.29.215.214|69.29.215.214]] ([[User talk:69.29.215.214|talk]]) 21:37, 17 November 2010 (UTC)


All sides agree: Capitalists, Communists, and their international financiers; the [[New world order (politics)|New World Order]] is all but realized. [[Special:Contributions/207.119.116.241|207.119.116.241]] ([[User talk:207.119.116.241|talk]]) 01:18, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
All sides agree - Capitalists, Communists, and their international financiers, the [[New world order (politics)|New World Order]] is all but realized. [[Special:Contributions/207.119.116.241|207.119.116.241]] ([[User talk:207.119.116.241|talk]]) 01:18, 19 November 2010 (UTC)


== The inchoate right wing screed above ==
== The inchoate right wing screed above ==
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In this vein, I believe that the article might be improved by some mention of this prior incident which not only foreshadows these later revolutions, but may have ''given rise'' to them in the opinions of their founders, as well as giving precedent to the world-events and arguments ensuing. In having researched this issue, there can be little doubt that the Proletarian foundations are related in validating the revolutions-- not only regarding Marx's own claims, but also the clear events of the Emancipation Proclamation as an essential tactic in dissuading overseas military support, as well as Confderate-sympathy in general. In essence, there is strong arugment that this may have laid the foundation for later revolution, as well as strong sympathy for later socialist movements in Europe and elsewhere. [[User:BradAnderson|BradAnderson]] ([[User talk:BradAnderson|talk]]) 19:26, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
In this vein, I believe that the article might be improved by some mention of this prior incident which not only foreshadows these later revolutions, but may have ''given rise'' to them in the opinions of their founders, as well as giving precedent to the world-events and arguments ensuing. In having researched this issue, there can be little doubt that the Proletarian foundations are related in validating the revolutions-- not only regarding Marx's own claims, but also the clear events of the Emancipation Proclamation as an essential tactic in dissuading overseas military support, as well as Confderate-sympathy in general. In essence, there is strong arugment that this may have laid the foundation for later revolution, as well as strong sympathy for later socialist movements in Europe and elsewhere. [[User:BradAnderson|BradAnderson]] ([[User talk:BradAnderson|talk]]) 19:26, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


: Marx wrote a great deal about the US Civil War.[[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1861/us-civil-war/index.htm 1]] But understand Marx was a hired writer for the larger conspiracy, not the originator or founder of the World Revolution. As many writers have documented Marx was hired by the international bankers who were part of the [[League of the Just]] (or the masonic [[Illuminati]]) founded after the French Revolution. This is why the French presented the Statue of Liberty to the US or Washington after they took over all the states following the Civil War of federal aggression. Their next move in the Americas was to unite all of north and south America as the [[Organization of American States|Pan-American Union]] (1890). Indeed, what has taken place is the Freemasons have erected an empire as a secular replacement for the previous [[Holy Roman Empire]]. Since the French Revolution when the masonic led revolution arrested the Pope and seized the [[Papal States]]-HRE the Freemasons have been replacing the monarchies of the HRE with secular republics, and dictatorships, in the west and east. The Marxist world revolution ran by the Freemasons or Knights Templar is just another empire from Rome.(see"[[Tupper Saussy]], Rulers of Evil)[[Special:Contributions/75.121.249.41|75.121.249.41]] ([[User talk:75.121.249.41|talk]]) 11:02, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
: Marx wrote a great deal about the US Civil War.[[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1861/us-civil-war/index.htm 1]] But understand Marx was a hired writer for the larger conspiracy, not the originator or founder of the World Revolution. As many writers have documented Marx was hired by the international bankers who were part of the [[League of the Just]] (or the masonic [[Illuminati]]) founded after the French Revolution. This is why the French presented the Statue of Liberty to the US, or Washington DC, after they took over all the states following the Civil War (of federal aggression). Their next move in the Americas was to unite all of north and south America as the [[Organization of American States|Pan-American Union]] (1890). Indeed, what has taken place is the Freemasons have erected an empire as a secular replacement for the previous [[Holy Roman Empire]]. Since the French Revolution when the masonic led revolution arrested the Pope and seized the [[Papal States]]-HRE the Freemasons have been replacing the monarchies of the HRE with secular republics, and dictatorships, in the west and east. The Marxist world revolution ran by the Freemasons or Knights Templar is just another empire from Rome.(see"[[Tupper Saussy]], Rulers of Evil)[[Special:Contributions/75.121.249.41|75.121.249.41]] ([[User talk:75.121.249.41|talk]]) 11:02, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
:: I've always found it interesting that conspiracy theorist love to lionize the Confederate South 'defending their freedom' yet never utter a peep about slavery. [[Special:Contributions/64.180.40.75|64.180.40.75]] ([[User talk:64.180.40.75|talk]]) 21:23, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:: I've always found it interesting that conspiracy theorist love to lionize the Confederate South 'defending their freedom' yet never utter a peep about slavery. [[Special:Contributions/64.180.40.75|64.180.40.75]] ([[User talk:64.180.40.75|talk]]) 21:23, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:::I stopped reading the second entry in this thread after a couple of sentences and the third also doesn't seem to be saying anything. The opening entry is very interesting though and certainly can make it into the mainspace of this article. Brad Anderson's issue could be combined with material from the [[Spring of Nations]], the [[Paris Commune]] and the late nineteenth century Internationalist movements in a "Pre-communist Socialism" section. The current "Communist Movements" section could be reworked as "Communist States" (with apposition) and material for the full range of relevant material on 20th century socialism. [[talk:revolution#the next step towards american revolution|Another]] thread asks about this and while the Burgerkreig or the first phase of the [[Second Thirty Years War]] may have been the previous closest thing, I think the [[Arab Spring]] and the new wave of Socialism in Latin America need only be supplement the fall of one of the centres, EU, America, or China, or even Russia to be a full realization of what this article is about. Perhaps a little procrastination here can allow something more interesting to be written for a section on post Soviet developments. [[User:Lycurgus|Lycurgus]] ([[User talk:Lycurgus|talk]]) 01:50, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
:::I stopped reading the second entry in this thread after a couple of sentences and the third also doesn't seem to be saying anything. The opening entry is very interesting though and certainly can make it into the mainspace of this article. Brad Anderson's issue could be combined with material from the [[Spring of Nations]], the [[Paris Commune]] and the late nineteenth century Internationalist movements in a "Pre-communist Socialism" section. The current "Communist Movements" section could be reworked as "Communist States" (with apposition) and material for the full range of relevant material on 20th century socialism. [[talk:revolution#the next step towards american revolution|Another]] thread asks about this and while the Burgerkreig or the first phase of the [[Second Thirty Years War]] may have been the previous closest thing, I think the [[Arab Spring]] and the new wave of Socialism in Latin America need only be supplement the fall of one of the centres, EU, America, or China, or even Russia to be a full realization of what this article is about. Perhaps a little procrastination here can allow something more interesting to be written for a section on post Soviet developments. [[User:Lycurgus|Lycurgus]] ([[User talk:Lycurgus|talk]]) 01:50, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

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After founding of the Federal Reserve following the famous meeting of international bankers (globalist-socialist) on Jekyll Island and the founding of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in NYC by the same bankers, the World Wars were planned and funded, including the Communist Revolutions in Russia and China. Instrumental international banker Rockefeller had this to say about the Communist Chinese Revolution:

"Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history." Numerous authors document the western banking interests funding the Russian Bolshevik Communist revolution. One such author was Antony Sutton in Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution. Following the 1917 Russian Revolution's success the Chinese revolution began in 1921 with support from the Russian communist, Mao having been educated for the position in the west. The video documentary Nine Commentaries on the CCP covers the founded of the Chinese Communist Party and their Russian support.

The world revolution continued into Korea with support from Communist in the North and Fascist America in the south. Today occupied Korea is not free as it once was. Vietnam was more of the same installing a Catholic dictatorship. Why Catholic? The world revolution is from the Vatican's Fascist military knights (international bankers) who founded both Capitalism and Communism for a Hegelian Dialectic. After Vietnam revolution raged in South America, and continue today in Africa aided by similar Islamic factions. 75.120.187.48 (talk) 21:28, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Often accused by the Socialists of being the leading cartel Capitalist, card carrying Communist David Rockefeller has perhaps done more to further the plans of the globalist socialist revolution than anyone alive.

Chairman of the Board of the globalist Communist Conspiracy of the Council on Foreign Relations is David Rockefeller.

The United Nations global ambitions were realized when land was donated by CFR chairman David Rockefeller.

Previously, Wall Street bankers including the Rockefellers supported the Communist Revolution that took Orthodox Moscow in 1917.

WALL STREET AND THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION By Antony C. Sutton, In his book, Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Anthony Sutton: "documented the fact that Rockefeller and Morgan banks provided the Bolsheviks with loans, while American industry provided them with the plants and the technology they needed. Westinghouse, Henry Ford, Averill Harriman, Armand Hammer, Exxon, and other American firms built the infrastructure that allowed the Soviet Union to survive." (Dr. Stanley Monteith, Brotherhood of Darkness, page 71)

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." (Page 405 of Rockefeller's autobiography, "Memoirs") 69.29.215.214 (talk) 01:41, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Group of Thirty was founded in 1978 by Geoffrey Bell at the initiative of the Rockefeller Foundation, which also provided initial funding for the body. The Group of Thirty establishes study groups to analyze issues of particular or systemic importance to the global financial markets. 69.29.215.214 (talk) 21:37, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All sides agree - Capitalists, Communists, and their international financiers, the New World Order is all but realized. 207.119.116.241 (talk) 01:18, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The inchoate right wing screed above

Probably has some value as a demonstration of something, but please use this page per WP:FORUM. 72.228.177.92 (talk) 20:24, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Marx's claim

The article states that "Arguably, the international situation in the years immediately following World War I was the closest the world ever came to such a revolution." However, Marx himself, speaking on behalf of the European Workingmen's Party, claimed that this took place during the American War Between the States, writing that "The workingmen of Europe feel sure that, as the American War of Independence initiated a new era of ascendancy for the middle class, so the American Antislavery War will do for the working classes. They consider it an earnest of the epoch to come that it fell to the lot of Abraham Lincoln, the single-minded son of the working class, to lead his country through the matchless struggle for the rescue of an enchained race and the reconstruction of a social world." (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm) In this vein, I believe that the article might be improved by some mention of this prior incident which not only foreshadows these later revolutions, but may have given rise to them in the opinions of their founders, as well as giving precedent to the world-events and arguments ensuing. In having researched this issue, there can be little doubt that the Proletarian foundations are related in validating the revolutions-- not only regarding Marx's own claims, but also the clear events of the Emancipation Proclamation as an essential tactic in dissuading overseas military support, as well as Confderate-sympathy in general. In essence, there is strong arugment that this may have laid the foundation for later revolution, as well as strong sympathy for later socialist movements in Europe and elsewhere. BradAnderson (talk) 19:26, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Marx wrote a great deal about the US Civil War.[1] But understand Marx was a hired writer for the larger conspiracy, not the originator or founder of the World Revolution. As many writers have documented Marx was hired by the international bankers who were part of the League of the Just (or the masonic Illuminati) founded after the French Revolution. This is why the French presented the Statue of Liberty to the US, or Washington DC, after they took over all the states following the Civil War (of federal aggression). Their next move in the Americas was to unite all of north and south America as the Pan-American Union (1890). Indeed, what has taken place is the Freemasons have erected an empire as a secular replacement for the previous Holy Roman Empire. Since the French Revolution when the masonic led revolution arrested the Pope and seized the Papal States-HRE the Freemasons have been replacing the monarchies of the HRE with secular republics, and dictatorships, in the west and east. The Marxist world revolution ran by the Freemasons or Knights Templar is just another empire from Rome.(see"Tupper Saussy, Rulers of Evil)75.121.249.41 (talk) 11:02, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've always found it interesting that conspiracy theorist love to lionize the Confederate South 'defending their freedom' yet never utter a peep about slavery. 64.180.40.75 (talk) 21:23, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I stopped reading the second entry in this thread after a couple of sentences and the third also doesn't seem to be saying anything. The opening entry is very interesting though and certainly can make it into the mainspace of this article. Brad Anderson's issue could be combined with material from the Spring of Nations, the Paris Commune and the late nineteenth century Internationalist movements in a "Pre-communist Socialism" section. The current "Communist Movements" section could be reworked as "Communist States" (with apposition) and material for the full range of relevant material on 20th century socialism. Another thread asks about this and while the Burgerkreig or the first phase of the Second Thirty Years War may have been the previous closest thing, I think the Arab Spring and the new wave of Socialism in Latin America need only be supplement the fall of one of the centres, EU, America, or China, or even Russia to be a full realization of what this article is about. Perhaps a little procrastination here can allow something more interesting to be written for a section on post Soviet developments. Lycurgus (talk) 01:50, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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