User talk:Scolaire

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Djegan 17:37, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Aire

The problem with translating "Príomh Aire" ad "Prime Minister" is that it implies "the first Minister to the Head of State - specifically to the King. But there was no King. In this context, the translation is not correct. --Red King 07:33, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Just for info, FearÉireann explains on my talk page that his reversion of your edit without explanation was a cock-up, not a conspiracy. --Red King 18:20, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Cathal Bruges

Just a note, sorry to take so long to respond to your thoughtful comment. Cheers V. Joe 22:21, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

The Family Way

Kingboyk, thanks for contributing to my article. I'm a fairly new member and this is the fiirst time that somebody has contributed to an article while I'm still working on it. Makes me feel I'm doing something worthwhile :-)
Scolaire 16:28, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome, and indeed welcome to the Beatles WikiProject. Good to have you aboard! :) If you need any help just let me know, or ask on our Project talk page. --kingboyk 17:14, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 3, July 2006

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter Issue 003 – July 2006
Beatles News Billy Preston, often considered the Fifth Beatle, died on 6 June at age 59. The American soul musician was a long term friend of The Beatles and was the only person to receive joint credit on a Beatles single ("Get Back"). Preston was an Apple Records recording artist and he performed at George Harrison's Concert for Bangladesh and at the Concert for George, both energetic and memorable performances. He also played regularly with The Rolling Stones and a number of other artists. Apple Corps has combined forces with Cirque du Soleil to create a show called "LOVE", featuring music by The Beatles, to be produced at the Mirage theatre in Las Vegas. The deal is reportedly worth US$30 million. George Harrison had originally been involved, as well as George Martin and Giles Martin. Preview performances began June 2, with the gala opening occurring on June 30. [1] Project News New article classification system, for our use and for Wikipedia 1.0. Very important and we need editor involvement. How can you help? Rate articles! It's easy: Visit Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/Article Classification and read about how to grade. Visit Category:Unassessed Beatles articles and select an article to review. After deciding what grade it should have, modify the invocation of {{WPBeatles}} on the talk page to add parms. The template itself gives you the parameters to use. For example, change {{WPBeatles}} to {{WPBeatles|B|Low}} if you think it's a low-importance, B-class article. Save your changes and make sure the talk page is now showing the ratings. Click on the link in the template to edit the /comments subpage and explain why you rated the article the way you did. Don't forget to sign with ~~~~. Save that too. Questions? Ask Kingboyk or Lar for help. Want to stay up on new project developments? Watchlist all of the WikiProject pages plus The Beatles and each of the 4 members, to get a feel for what's happening. Also monitor and regularly review Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/The Beatles articles by quality log. If an article is listed on there as "added", go check the article's history. If it's new since the Project began add it to the Project Log as a new article and up the counter by one :) The charity album No One's Gonna Change Our World has been adopted by simonthebold. Ten new articles have been listed in the Project Log since 1 June. Member News New members to the project since the last issue include DslSWF, Goldom, Afghan Historian, Scolaire, bl4d3, and Vint. LessHeard vanU and Lar have been awarded Barnstars for unrelated activities.	Issue of the Month Preparing articles for inclusion in Wikipedia 1.0. From the Editors It was a bit of a struggle to get this month's newsletter done, as we did it without a lead editor. Hopefully, next month you'll jump in and be our lead editor. Big news is that WP:1.0 is coming along nicely and our article classification system has changed to conform to it. If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 004 – August 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing! Contributors to this Issue GPHemsley (Editor) LessHeard vanU (Editor) kingboyk (Editor) Lar (Editor, Distributor)
Complete To Do List Make visible or invisible by clicking Show or Hide, respectively. Open tasks for WikiProject The Beatles. Edit or discuss these tasks. As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy. To Expand: Olivia Trinidad Arias, A World Without Love, MPL Communications. See also: Adopt an article To Clean up: Apple Records discography (wikify) To Merge: To Create: Robert Freeman. Articles for the main albums by Julian Lennon, plus Category:Julian Lennon and Category:Julian Lennon albums Full list & instructions. Lists to complete: Wanted Pics/Graphics: Mal Evans, Flying (song), Astrid Kirchherr, Jimmy Nicol, Cynthia Powell, Alistair Taylor, Ivan Vaughan, Tittenhurst Park. We need a better open-licenced photo for the project, to replace the Abbey Road crossing. If you provide a photo, please remove the ReqPhoto tag from the article's talk page and remove the article from this list. Project Discussions: The Beatles history, Individual songs vs longer album articles, Beatle wives, Merge/split proposals Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here. If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.

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Meyer Prinstein

Thanks for creating that article. That proves I was quite right when I told someone today that removing red links encourages editors to create the articles, not the other way 'round. :) Mad Jack 22:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jack. Actually the article has been around for a while, but entitled "Meyer Prinstein". All I did in this case was fix the link. Scolaire 22:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh... well, thanks anyway! Mad Jack 22:54, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 4, August 2006

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter Issue 004 – August 2006
Issue of the Month Despite it being the lead news article of last month, there is still help required in the assessing of articles and the migrating of comments. Lar is willing to provide assistance to those unsure how to do this. Beatles News The Beatles in the news. Suggestions: [2] [3] Project News The Beatles article, the "Flagship" of the Project, is currently under review with regard to its Featured Article status. It is hoped that the review will identify those areas that need some(/lots of) remedial work, and that the Project participants and those editors who are involved in the the FA admin pages to can work together to "save" the status of the article. At the moment there is some discussion as to why it has been listed, and what may be needed to help it retain its FA status. It may well be that some work is going to be required in formulating a plan of action, and then some more in achieving those aims. The FA status is obviously quite important to the Project, and it would be appreciated if participants are able to provide assistance in keeping the article up to standard. The editors would be grateful if those persons receiving this Newsletter could spare some of their time, energy and brainpower in keeping this jewel in our crown in its proper place. Please go to Wikipedia:Featured article review/The Beatles and get involved! Thank you. Notable updates The compilation album The Beatles 1962-1966 has been adopted by PhattyFatt. Four new articles have been listed in the Project Log since 1 July: All You Need is Ears, the George Martin memoir (Stevage) Radha Krsna Temple, the ISKCON headquarters and album (Simon123, Kingboyk) A Cellar Full of Noise, the Brian Epstein autobiography (El Slameron) Wings Over Europe Tour, the Wings concert tour in Europe (Danthemankhan) Two Beatles related articles, The Beatles trivia [deletion debate] and George Smith (John Lennon) [deletion debate], were nominated for deletion. Both were kept on the basis that no consensus was reached. Member News New members to the project since the last issue include Doctorfreedom, Red Alien, dure, PhattyFatt and Caesar.	From the Editors As mentioned in the Project News section, The Beatles article has just been listed for a review of its Featured Article status. Working on this is quite important. If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 005 – September 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing! Contributors to this Issue LessHeard vanU (Lead Editor) GPHemsley (Editor) kingboyk (Editor) Lar (Editor, Distributor)
Complete To Do List Make visible or invisible by clicking Show or Hide, respectively. Open tasks for WikiProject The Beatles. Edit or discuss these tasks. As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy. To Expand: Apple Records (if you are an Apple Records collector/expert please see Talk:Apple Records and help expand/clean up this article). Also, new Apple related article in need of expert assistance: Radha Krsna Temple. Old requests: Olivia Trinidad Arias, A World Without Love, MPL Communications. See also: Adopt an article To Clean up: Apple Records discography (wikify) To Merge: To Create: Robert Freeman. Articles for the main albums by Julian Lennon, plus Category:Julian Lennon and Category:Julian Lennon albums Full list & instructions. Lists to complete: Wanted Pics/Graphics: Mal Evans, Flying (song), Astrid Kirchherr, Jimmy Nicol, Cynthia Powell, Alistair Taylor, Ivan Vaughan, Tittenhurst Park. We need a better open-licenced photo for the project, to replace the Abbey Road crossing. If you provide a photo, please remove the ReqPhoto tag from the article's talk page and remove the article from this list. Project Discussions: The Beatles history, Individual songs vs longer album articles, Beatle wives, Merge/split proposals Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here. If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.

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Infobox

Apologies. I was trying to fix the page with the template when my crappy internet link went down. Where an infobox affects the location of images, the standard solution applied all over WP is simple: change the image placement from right to left (or vice versa if the box is on the left). Because of the nature of the template a reader should be able to link into a lot more than just the piece you left here. I think it is important that people can use the whole template to get access to all the information. The box is designed as a form of crossroads from which a reader can go to everything from political topics to biographies to artistic aspects to links to other strands in Irish history, whether Unionism, Monarchism, etc. So readers should be able in one straight link, for example, to go from here to songs about the Rising (we need some articles about them), or to Sinn Féin, or by jumping to the forthcoming Nationalist template to the IIP, etc etc. FearÉIREANN\^(caint) 22:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

That is one of the major benefits of using these boxes rather than categories. Some months ago, as one of the editing team pulling together articles on monarchy on WP I created a template on crowns and crown jewels. At the start probably only about 15 of the 40 or so links to famous crowns were written up. Within a couple of weeks users from all around the world had been spurred on to add in articles on the Iranian Crown Jewels or the Louis XV crown, or the Crown of Mexico, etc. So the template generated those articles, whereas a category list never could, as you need to have a category to have an article link to start off with.

One of the reasons I created this big template is to encourage editors to contribute to those articles already there. I remember as a schoolkid learning The Bold Fenian Men and various other republican songs. (I remember once song from the 1970s: Rubber Bullets for the Ladies!) I am working on a template on Irish monarchism. While doing it I remembered Griffith's proposal for an Anglo-Irish Empire. I'd completely forgotten that. So these templates, especially big ones, whether the republican one or the crowns one, can act as a major spur to having gaps filled in. Over time the template can then be narrowed and focused down but right now it is big to get the ball rolling on ideas and topics that people might not have thought about contributing to until they saw the link. FearÉIREANN\^(caint) 23:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Scoláire

Hiya Scoláire. 'I left off the á from my user name just because it's a pain to type in every time I log on.' I just came over to your page from the comment on the Talk:British Isles (terminology) page and saw this. It shouldn't be any trouble at all to get the fadaí. Hold down the 'alt' 'ctrl' and vowel simultaneously and you have them in small letters very quickly: áéíóú. Simple. Hold down the 'alt', 'ctrl', vowel and 'shift' keys to get the fadaí in caps: ÁÉÍÓÚ. Bail ó Dhia. El Gringo 22:20, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Gringo. I did actually know about the alt key (I usually use alt-160 for á etc.). By 'a pain to type in' I just meant I haven't the patience to spend the extra 1.3 seconds holding the alt key :P I love your user page, though. a poem about me! And in a fabulous Gaelic font. Did you know you can get séimhiú's on most of those fonts as well, for the real ancient feel (we still had séimhiú's when I was at school)? Scolaire 06:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Aris

Jonto is back again on British Isles doing his usual antics. Yippee. *sigh* Keep an eye out. FearÉIREANN\^(caint) 17:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

W.T. Cosgrave

Hi, Peter I think you are mistaken on W.T. Cosgrave. One of the strange quirks of the English language seems to be that where someone is known by a number of initials, and the first name is initialised rather than spelt out, the set of initials are written in one of three formats: (1) bunched together; (2) written with a space between each but no period; or (3) written with periods but no spaces between them. So one writes FDR, F D R or F.D.R. but not F. D. R.; JFK, J F K or J.F.K. but not J. F. K.; PW Botha, P W Botha or P.W. Botha, but not P. W. Botha. Similarly here one writes either WT Cosgrave, W T Cosgrave or W.T. Cosgrave. One doesn't write W. T. Cosgrave however. (I did write W. T. Cosgrave in a college essay once and had it marked as wrong!) English is full of these quirks. Often they aren't even formally defined. They just develop. This article is correctly laid out. W. T. Cosgrave would be incorrect, and also look very strange.

BTW Thanks for the comments on the IrishR template. Sorry if I sounded grouchy earlier when talking about it. Having a bad cold, a migraine, etc does that to me. I am happy with how the boxes are progressing. I just have to do a Unionist box now. They all are still being tweaked to get the overall concept right, but I think they are a useful addition. All too often when we think about a political concept we forget its cultural resonances also. That is why I was so insistent on the cultural bits staying in. Songs and stories play a significant part on shaping a movement or ideals. I think it is a pity that say the {{Socialism}} box ignores the cultural aspects and focuses exclusively on the hard political. Anyway, I've done three boxes, on Irish Republicanism, Irish Nationalism and Irish Monarchism. All that remains is Irish Unionism. Putting in links to each on each other's templates allows users to jump between the templates, which I think will be very useful in allowing someone who is reading about one aspect of Irish political history to jump to a completely different strand and see the key aspects there. FearÉIREANN\^(caint) 00:27, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

"F D R" or "J F K" looks seriously creepy! ;-) Otherwise, I take your point. It might be a point worth making at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)#Middle names - abbreviations of names.
Scolaire 20:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Having written that, I now discover it has been discussed at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (people)#Proposal on spacing of initials in names.
Scolaire 20:45, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

You might be interested in a RM going on at talk:Prime minister (sic). Some individuals moved the page to that ridiculous half uppercase half lowercase name (if it stays at that form WP will be a laughing stock!) Feel free to contribute to the debate if you wish. FearÉIREANN\^(caint) 23:38, 2 September 2006 (UTC)