Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Poverty in Tanzania (2nd nomination)

Poverty in Tanzania

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Tagged as WP:OR for years and not, apparently, ever fixed. There may be some stuff here that could be merged into articles on the economy of Tanzania, but this looks like a mix of WP:SYN and redundant content on (e.g.) Tanzania's political system. $THING in $COUNTRY is a thing, but this article fails to make a case for its own existence IMO. Guy (Help!) 09:45, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 19:04, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 19:05, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:28, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

• Keep This is an indisputably notable topic, just as is Poverty in the United States. AfD is not cleanup. Instead of expending energy trying to delete an article about a notable topic, I suggest that the nominator spend a few minutes reading a few of the readily available reliable sources about the topic, and then summarize and reference those sources, thereby improving the article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:58, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Here is a whole book about the topic: Contextualising Poverty in Tanzania: Historical Origins, Policy Failures and Recent Trends. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:11, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

It would be nice if the authors had bothered to write an article that was not a disjointed personal essay. I know nothing about this subject and do not consider myself competent to rewrrite the article, It has required rewriting since it was written, that's evident from the first AfD. But maybe this is one of those topics where we are doomed to have a terrible article forever because nobody competent to write a good one, can be bothered. Guy (Help!) 07:14, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

• Delete. It is possible that someday a well-sourced article can be written on this notable topic, but right now the piece of an un-salvageable disjointed personal essay. WP:TNT applies here. Alternatively, we could redirect to Economy of Tanzania. Neutrality^talk 13:54, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
• Keep and almost speedy at that. Clearly notable, and I don't really think the quality is so bad that it needs to just be blown up and started over.--Prisencolin (talk) 16:17, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
• Keep - Clearly notable topic. The prose is low quality, but not so bad as to warrant WP:TNT. If you were to improve this page, you could use the structure currently in place, and even a large amount of the current text. Deletion is absolutely not warranted here. Never has there been a better place to use our catchphrase and unofficial motto, "AfD is not cleanup"! Fieari (talk) 23:41, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
• Keep - Clearly passes WP:GNG. It does need some cleanup, but I agree with Prisencolin and Fieari that it is not the point where WP:TNT is warranted. Not seeing a justification for deletion.--Ddcm8991 (talk) 15:10, 15 September 2016 (UTC)