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Run-of-the-mill racing game. Reads like an advert, really. Calton | Talk 09:53, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Calton, thanks for the questions, I have to agree, by the definition expressed in WP:GNG this article is not suitable for deletion (Significant coverage with Reliable citations, that are independent of the subject). This is a work in progress and I am hoping to attract more collaboration to improve the article. - RadRacer20xx | Talk

Merge to a section in Creative Mobile. I would say "weak keep" as barely passing WP:GNG with multiple independent reliable in-depth (reviews) sources, such as WP:VG/RS. [1][2] and a bunch of not explicitly vetted RS. A bunch of sources look unreliable though. Notability is not based on article quality or perceived popularity, so being poorly written or run-of-the-mill is not a valid deletion rationale. However, the amount of content is very small, so there likely isn't a need for a separate article. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 11:49, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Run-of-the-mill" means "not notable", so yeah, it most certainly IS a "valid deletion rationale". --Calton | Talk 12:20, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTABLE has a precise definition expressed in WP:GNG, and "run-of-the-mill" or any similar is not GNG criteria. If you say that it is not notable because it doesn't meet GNG criteria, that's one thing. But only saying "run-of-the-mill" ("(un)popular", "(un)imporant", etc.) is subjective and does not reflect community consensus about notability criteria. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 15:41, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi HELLKNOWZ - Regarding the 'explicitly vetted RS', after reviewing the list, there are very few sites at the moment that handle mobile games. As for the small amount of content, this article is still being improved upon in my spare time, I'm using the template from similar mobile racing games Real_Racing & CSR_Racing - RadRacer20xx | Talk

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 Run-of-the-mill racing game. Reads like an advert, really. [[User:Calton|Calton]] | [[User talk:Calton|Talk]] 09:53, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
+:*Hi [[User:Calton|Calton]], thanks for the questions, I have to agree, by the definition expressed in [[WP:GNG]] this article is not suitable for deletion (Significant coverage with Reliable citations, that are independent of the subject). This is a work in progress and I am hoping to attract more collaboration to improve the article. - [[User:RadRacer20xx|RadRacer20xx]] | [[User talk:RadRacer20xx |Talk]]
 *'''Merge''' to a section in [[Creative Mobile]]. I would say "weak keep" as barely passing [[WP:GNG]] with multiple independent reliable in-depth (reviews) sources, such as [[WP:VG/RS]]. [http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/iPad/Nitro+Nation/review.asp?c=65434&srch=nitro+nation+online][http://www.gamezebo.com/2013/10/10/nitro-nation-online-preview/] and a bunch of not explicitly vetted RS. A bunch of sources look unreliable though. Notability is not based on article quality or perceived popularity, so being poorly written or run-of-the-mill is not a valid deletion rationale. However, the amount of content is very small, so there likely isn't a need for a separate article. —&nbsp;<small>&nbsp;[[user:Hellknowz|<font color="#B00">HELL</font>KNOWZ]]&nbsp;&nbsp;▎[[User talk:Hellknowz|TALK]]</small> 11:49, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
 :*"Run-of-the-mill" means "not notable", so yeah, it most certainly IS a "valid deletion rationale". --[[User:Calton|Calton]] | [[User talk:Calton|Talk]] 12:20, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
 ::*[[WP:NOTABLE]] has a precise definition expressed in [[WP:GNG]], and "run-of-the-mill" or any similar is not GNG criteria. If you say that it is not notable because it doesn't meet GNG criteria, that's one thing. But only saying "run-of-the-mill" ("(un)popular", "(un)imporant", etc.) is subjective and does not reflect community consensus about notability criteria. —&nbsp;<small>&nbsp;[[user:Hellknowz|<font color="#B00">HELL</font>KNOWZ]]&nbsp;&nbsp;▎[[User talk:Hellknowz|TALK]]</small> 15:41, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
+:*Hi [[user:Hellknowz|HELLKNOWZ]] - Regarding the 'explicitly vetted RS', after reviewing the list, there are very few sites at the moment that handle mobile games. As for the small amount of content, this article is still being improved upon in my spare time, I'm using the template from similar mobile racing games [[Real_Racing]] & [[CSR_Racing]] - [[User:RadRacer20xx|RadRacer20xx]] | [[User talk:RadRacer20xx |Talk]]