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I've changed the book cover image to the Knopf Canada first edition cover, as Atwood is Canadian and Knopf Canada is listed as the publisher in the infobox (and ostensibly was the original publisher). I'm not sure what the standard for the image used in the infobox is, other than using first editions. I couldn't find any discussion about this so I've just been bold and done it myself. Please let me know if I've done something wrong. Mr. Absurd (talk) 03:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can confirm that is the cover for the trade paperback - the edition I have. I certainly like this image better. The previous one is from a hardcover edition, I believe. --maclean 03:42, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This cover was used for both the first edition hardcover (in Canada) and the paperback—the other image was the UK edition, which had a different image. Mr. Absurd (talk) 13:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hang on a second (opening paragraph)

Does anyone else find this line horribly phrased:

"In The Penelopiad, Penelope reminisces on the events during the Odyssey, life in Hades, and her relationships with her parents, Odysseus, and Helen"

Knowing the story, I can tell what it means. But to me that sounds like it's saying Odysseus and Helen are her parents. Wouldn't it read slightly better if written "her relationships with Odysseus, Helen and her parents"? If no one objects, I'll do just that. Prophaniti (talk) 10:19, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, go and do that. Xxanthippe (talk) 12:36, 26 August 2008 (UTC).[reply]

you should really google 'oxford comma'....get ready for a shitfest :) 145.90.183.24 (talk) 12:44, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Homer is the author of The Odyssey. In the Odyssey, and in the Penelopiad, Penelope is married to Odysseus. Twice in this stub Homer is mistakenly referred to as a character, specifically Penelope's husband, where is should actually be Odysseus. "Atwood uses material from The Odyssey to spin a yarn about how Penelope waited for twenty years for Homer to return, giving clues as to what she did to evade the suitors, did she collude with the maids to evade them, or did she herself fall for the suitors and betrayed Homer; and when he returned, got the maids killed to save herself."

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 Knowing the story, I can tell what it means. But to me that sounds like it's saying Odysseus and Helen are her parents. Wouldn't it read slightly better if written "her relationships with Odysseus, Helen and her parents"? If no one objects, I'll do just that. [[User:Prophaniti|Prophaniti]] ([[User talk:Prophaniti|talk]]) 10:19, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 :Yes, go and do that. [[User:Xxanthippe|Xxanthippe]] ([[User talk:Xxanthippe|talk]]) 12:36, 26 August 2008 (UTC).
+: you should really google 'oxford comma'....get ready for a shitfest :) [[Special:Contributions/145.90.183.24|145.90.183.24]] ([[User talk:145.90.183.24|talk]]) 12:44, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
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