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It looks like this article was started by a commercial interest, and it was vandalized apparently for commercial reasons as well. I added the link to www.churchdb.org as an example of open source church management software and someone changed the link to point to the web site of a commercial application. I fixed the damage but this impresses me as flagrant abuse of Wikipedia. I think it is a worthy subject if someone treats it fairly, and very different from worship presentation. I would support deleting this lame stab at the subject. Someone wrote an article about the ChurchInfo project some years ago, but it got deleted almost immediately. I'm puzzled by Wiki dynamics. [[User:Mikewilt|Mikewilt]] ([[User talk:Mikewilt|talk]]) 17:41, 30 November 2011 (EDT) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/208.65.175.197|208.65.175.197]] ([[User talk:208.65.175.197|talk]]) </span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
It looks like this article was started by a commercial interest, and it was vandalized apparently for commercial reasons as well. I added the link to www.churchdb.org as an example of open source church management software and someone changed the link to point to the web site of a commercial application. I fixed the damage but this impresses me as flagrant abuse of Wikipedia. I think it is a worthy subject if someone treats it fairly, and very different from worship presentation. I would support deleting this lame stab at the subject. Someone wrote an article about the ChurchInfo project some years ago, but it got deleted almost immediately. I'm puzzled by Wiki dynamics. [[User:Mikewilt|Mikewilt]] ([[User talk:Mikewilt|talk]]) 17:41, 30 November 2011 (EDT) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/208.65.175.197|208.65.175.197]] ([[User talk:208.65.175.197|talk]]) </span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Surely this article should be deleted - the first paragraph has essentially zero citations and is simply stating some obvious reasons as to why some churches use software for projecting lyrics. The second appears to be a promotion for church specific management software (rather than a more general piece of management software), and while it contains citations, they're little more than obsolete magazine articles. There's no useful information in this article whatsoever. If the article was going to be improved and expanded upon, it would have happened to at least a degree in the last five years. As it stands at the moment, the page's history shows that it's much more likely to attract vandalism and promotions than it is worthwhile content. It should go.[[Special:Contributions/88.97.39.34|88.97.39.34]] ([[User talk:88.97.39.34|talk]]) 14:33, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

== Merger proposal ==
== Merger proposal ==
I'm proposing merging the article [[Worship presentation program]] to become the main section on this page, with the existing content under ''management'' [[User:Aronzak|-- Aronzak]] ([[User talk:Aronzak|talk]]) 14:12, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm proposing merging the article [[Worship presentation program]] to become the main section on this page, with the existing content under ''management'' [[User:Aronzak|-- Aronzak]] ([[User talk:Aronzak|talk]]) 14:12, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

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Deletion proposal

I think this article is best deleted. Although it used to point to worship presentation software (now merged into Contemporary worship), there are actually other types of church software, particularly those designed to keep membership and financial records, etc. (Try typing church software into google). Until someone can create a proper article, I think the redirect is misleading and so have blanked it. Sidefall (talk) 13:05, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the article should be deleted. I think it should be expanded upon. Church management software especially is very important topic. As more small churches pop up, people are looking for more information on how to manage these churches, especially the accounting side of management. Doups3 (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, but it currently needs more sources; see WP:IRS for the sort of things that are needed. I'm not sure that the external link which you just added meets these criteria; can you justify it? It would be useful to find an objective comparison of different worship presentation programs in a good-quality magazine. The old page Talk:Church management software has other stuff some of which may also help. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:04, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like this article was started by a commercial interest, and it was vandalized apparently for commercial reasons as well. I added the link to www.churchdb.org as an example of open source church management software and someone changed the link to point to the web site of a commercial application. I fixed the damage but this impresses me as flagrant abuse of Wikipedia. I think it is a worthy subject if someone treats it fairly, and very different from worship presentation. I would support deleting this lame stab at the subject. Someone wrote an article about the ChurchInfo project some years ago, but it got deleted almost immediately. I'm puzzled by Wiki dynamics. Mikewilt (talk) 17:41, 30 November 2011 (EDT) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.65.175.197 (talk)

Surely this article should be deleted - the first paragraph has essentially zero citations and is simply stating some obvious reasons as to why some churches use software for projecting lyrics. The second appears to be a promotion for church specific management software (rather than a more general piece of management software), and while it contains citations, they're little more than obsolete magazine articles. There's no useful information in this article whatsoever. If the article was going to be improved and expanded upon, it would have happened to at least a degree in the last five years. As it stands at the moment, the page's history shows that it's much more likely to attract vandalism and promotions than it is worthwhile content. It should go.88.97.39.34 (talk) 14:33, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

I'm proposing merging the article Worship presentation program to become the main section on this page, with the existing content under management -- Aronzak (talk) 14:12, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

-  Done in Oct 2009. [1]