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{{talkquote|However, recent geophysical research suggests that unlike the Sarasvati, whose descriptions in the Rig Veda are those of a snow-fed river, the Ghaggar-Hakra was a system of monsoon-fed rivers, which dried up around the time that the civilisation diminished approximately 4,000 years ago.<ref name="Giosan2012">{{cite journal|last=Giosan|first=L. et al|title=Fluvial landscapes of the Harappan Civilization|journal=Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, USA|year=2012|volume=109|issue=26|url=http://www.pnas.org/content/109/26/E1688.full|doi=10.1073/pnas.1112743109|pages=E1688–E1694|pmid=22645375|pmc=3387054}}</ref>{{refn|group=lower-alpha|Giosan (2012): "Numerous speculations have advanced the idea that the Ghaggar-Hakra fluvial system, at times identified with the lost mythical river of Sarasvati (e.g., 4, 5, 7, 19), was a large glacier fed Himalayan river. Potential sources for this river include the Yamuna River, the Sutlej River, or both rivers. However, the lack of large-scale incision on the interfluve demonstrates that large, glacier-fed rivers did not flow across the Ghaggar-Hakra region during the Holocene. .... The present Ghaggar-Hakra valley and its tributary rivers are currently dry or have seasonal flows. Yet rivers were undoubtedly active in this region during the Urban Harappan Phase. We recovered sandy fluvial deposits approximately 5;400 y old at Fort Abbas in Pakistan (SI Text), and recent work (33) on the upper Ghaggar-Hakra interfluve in India also documented Holocene channel sands that are approximately 4;300 y old. On the upper interfluve, fine-grained floodplain deposition continued until the end of the Late Harappan Phase, as recent as 2,900 y ago (33) (Fig. 2B). This widespread fluvial redistribution of sediment suggests that reliable monsoon rains were able to sustain perennial rivers earlier during the Holocene and explains why Harappan settlements flourished along the entire Ghaggar-Hakra system without access to a glacier-fed river."<ref name="Giosan2012"/>}}<ref name=agu-198>{{citation|last1=Maemoku|first1=Hideaki|last2=Shitaoka|first2=Yorinao|last3=Nagatomo|first3=Tsuneto|last4=Yagi|first4=Hiroshi|editor1=Giosan, Liviu|editor2=Fuller, Dorian Q.|editor3=Nicoll, Kathleen|editor4=Flad, Rowan K.|editor5=Clift, Peter D. |title=Climates, Landscapes, and Civilizations|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=D7aw5mfscBMC|series=American Geophysical Union Monograph Series 198|year=2013|publisher=John Wiley & Sons|isbn=978-1-118-70443-1|chapter=Geomorphological Constraints on the Ghaggar River Regime During the Mature Harappan Period}}</ref>}} ([[User:Highpeaks35|Highpeaks35]] ([[User talk:Highpeaks35|talk]]) 17:53, 31 January 2019 (UTC)) |
{{talkquote|However, recent geophysical research suggests that unlike the Sarasvati, whose descriptions in the Rig Veda are those of a snow-fed river, the Ghaggar-Hakra was a system of monsoon-fed rivers, which dried up around the time that the civilisation diminished approximately 4,000 years ago.<ref name="Giosan2012">{{cite journal|last=Giosan|first=L. et al|title=Fluvial landscapes of the Harappan Civilization|journal=Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, USA|year=2012|volume=109|issue=26|url=http://www.pnas.org/content/109/26/E1688.full|doi=10.1073/pnas.1112743109|pages=E1688–E1694|pmid=22645375|pmc=3387054}}</ref>{{refn|group=lower-alpha|Giosan (2012): "Numerous speculations have advanced the idea that the Ghaggar-Hakra fluvial system, at times identified with the lost mythical river of Sarasvati (e.g., 4, 5, 7, 19), was a large glacier fed Himalayan river. Potential sources for this river include the Yamuna River, the Sutlej River, or both rivers. However, the lack of large-scale incision on the interfluve demonstrates that large, glacier-fed rivers did not flow across the Ghaggar-Hakra region during the Holocene. .... The present Ghaggar-Hakra valley and its tributary rivers are currently dry or have seasonal flows. Yet rivers were undoubtedly active in this region during the Urban Harappan Phase. We recovered sandy fluvial deposits approximately 5;400 y old at Fort Abbas in Pakistan (SI Text), and recent work (33) on the upper Ghaggar-Hakra interfluve in India also documented Holocene channel sands that are approximately 4;300 y old. On the upper interfluve, fine-grained floodplain deposition continued until the end of the Late Harappan Phase, as recent as 2,900 y ago (33) (Fig. 2B). This widespread fluvial redistribution of sediment suggests that reliable monsoon rains were able to sustain perennial rivers earlier during the Holocene and explains why Harappan settlements flourished along the entire Ghaggar-Hakra system without access to a glacier-fed river."<ref name="Giosan2012"/>}}<ref name=agu-198>{{citation|last1=Maemoku|first1=Hideaki|last2=Shitaoka|first2=Yorinao|last3=Nagatomo|first3=Tsuneto|last4=Yagi|first4=Hiroshi|editor1=Giosan, Liviu|editor2=Fuller, Dorian Q.|editor3=Nicoll, Kathleen|editor4=Flad, Rowan K.|editor5=Clift, Peter D. |title=Climates, Landscapes, and Civilizations|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=D7aw5mfscBMC|series=American Geophysical Union Monograph Series 198|year=2013|publisher=John Wiley & Sons|isbn=978-1-118-70443-1|chapter=Geomorphological Constraints on the Ghaggar River Regime During the Mature Harappan Period}}</ref>}} ([[User:Highpeaks35|Highpeaks35]] ([[User talk:Highpeaks35|talk]]) 17:53, 31 January 2019 (UTC)) |
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::{{re|Highpeaks35}} Please post this at the article talk page. That way all article-related improvement posts will be in one place. Best regards, [[User:Fowler&fowler|<span style="color:#B8860B">Fowler&fowler</span>]][[User talk:Fowler&fowler|<span style="color:#708090">«Talk»</span>]] 18:37, 31 January 2019 (UTC) |
::{{re|Highpeaks35}} Please post this at the article talk page. That way all article-related improvement posts will be in one place. Best regards, [[User:Fowler&fowler|<span style="color:#B8860B">Fowler&fowler</span>]][[User talk:Fowler&fowler|<span style="color:#708090">«Talk»</span>]] 18:37, 31 January 2019 (UTC) |
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Thanks for the thumbs up to me
Thanks for the impressive resume on the ANI, though I think none of it was relevant to that dispute. :) I was impulsive to roll back. I need to be more careful. Thanks, once again. I don't think this is the last we shall see of HighPeaks. AshLin (talk) 16:05, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- @AshLin:You are most welcome. I don't entirely agree that it is not relevant on Wikipedia, though in an ideal world it shouldn't be. Sometimes we are dealing with editors who don't grant the works of others the good faith or the intellectual respect that they a priori deserve. To quote WP rules to them is unproductive as they pay only lip service to the rules. However, to occasionally remind them that their interlocutors are real people, living lives whose track records belie interpretations of bad faith, is an effective option. This is all I did; there was no hype. There was no need for hype. Best regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:22, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks anyway, :) AshLin (talk) 14:54, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
FYI
[1]. Pings don't work in edit summaries apparently. --regentspark (comment) 14:34, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- And if you don't know this fact about pinging, what are the chances I would? :) I noticed Bidaris, or some such. None of the sources mention this clan name though. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:45, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
IVC - citation errors
These edits of yours caused multiple cite errors. Please double check, would have fixed it myself, but I am almost certain you would be starting unproductive insult(s), trolling and edit warring with me:
However, recent geophysical research suggests that unlike the Sarasvati, whose descriptions in the Rig Veda are those of a snow-fed river, the Ghaggar-Hakra was a system of monsoon-fed rivers, which dried up around the time that the civilisation diminished approximately 4,000 years ago.[1][a][2]
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- @Highpeaks35: Please post this at the article talk page. That way all article-related improvement posts will be in one place. Best regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:37, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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Code16 (talk) 00:45, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- ^ a b Giosan, L.; et al. (2012). "Fluvial landscapes of the Harappan Civilization". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, USA. 109 (26): E1688–E1694. doi:10.1073/pnas.1112743109. PMC 3387054. PMID 22645375.
{{cite journal}}: Explicit use of et al. in:|first=(help) - ^ Maemoku, Hideaki; Shitaoka, Yorinao; Nagatomo, Tsuneto; Yagi, Hiroshi (2013), "Geomorphological Constraints on the Ghaggar River Regime During the Mature Harappan Period", in Giosan, Liviu; Fuller, Dorian Q.; Nicoll, Kathleen; Flad, Rowan K.; Clift, Peter D. (eds.), Climates, Landscapes, and Civilizations, American Geophysical Union Monograph Series 198, John Wiley & Sons, ISBN 978-1-118-70443-1
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