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Wiki Entry for Joseph Gallo

First I want to thank you for vandalism patrolling, Metros232, and for catching obvious sophomoronic attempts to smear professional people who have specific information listed as a way to be distinguished from others who have the same name.

Please revert to the previous version of the Joseph Gallo page, which already contains a link to Joseph N. Gallo embedded. I changed the page today and you reverted it some three minutes later. I am the poet and have an interest in this page being more broadly inclusive as this is the only way many people have of both identifying and finding me for further contact.

Thanks for your efforts and I appreciate your cooperation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.219.249.85 (talk • contribs)

No, the page will remain in its current state, as a redirect to Joseph N. Gallo. What you want to include is not notable. And it is an improper way of formatting disambiguation pages. Disambiguation pages list links to articles on people or things with similar names. The Joseph Gallo you want to link to (aka yourself) doesn't have an article, therefore, no disambig page is necessary. Metros232 20:53, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

We can change that.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.219.249.85 (talk • contribs)

Wikipedians decide what is notable and what is not with notability standards such as WP:BIO. Metros232 22:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Re High School reference you provided

Nothing works for me. This place is a fraud (Wikipedia). But thanks for continuing to believe in good will, as most people simple revert whatever inconvenienct such tag is placed on their article without doing anything. So I commend you for keeping your head above water and remaining hopeful that this mess (Wikipedia) is actually is meaningful -- given the amount of mess and fraud most of it is. (I am operating under another name, as I have given up on any kind of real contribution because real work is inconvenient to so many people that punishment of workers is the rule.) I have dealt with you before (under my constructive, hard working name) so I am in awe that you are actually responding and seeming to care -- never has happened before. Xampt 01:10, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

After that comment to me, it's fairly obvious who you are. So might I suggest if you're trying to be covert around here, try to be a little more subtle about your past (avoid editing most of the articles you did: you always loved Indian-related articles, the Fidel Castro article, and after that unfortunate AfD, had a strong disdain for high school articles). And that's just based on 10 of your edits so far. Just a word to the wise, Metros232 01:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah, and speaking of avoiding things that once occurred, do you think it was wise to visit RJHall's talk page? Metros232 01:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Re High School reference you provided

Nothing works for me. This place is a fraud (Wikipedia). But thanks for continuing to believe in good will, as most people simple revert whatever inconvenienct such tag is placed on their article without doing anything. So I commend you for keeping your head above water and remaining hopeful that this mess (Wikipedia) is actually is meaningful -- given the amount of mess and fraud most of it is. (I am operating under another name, as I have given up on any kind of real contribution because real work is inconvenient to so many people that punishment of workers is the rule.) I have dealt with you before (under my constructive, hard working name) so I am in awe that you are actually responding and seeming to care -- never has happened before. Xampt 01:10, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

After that comment to me, it's fairly obvious who you are. So might I suggest if you're trying to be covert around here, try to be a little more subtle about your past (avoid editing most of the articles you did: you always loved Indian-related articles, the Fidel Castro article, and after that unfortunate AfD, had a strong disdain for high school articles). And that's just based on 10 of your edits so far. Just a word to the wise, Metros232 01:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Who cares? Not me. I have no intention, whatever your hypotheses are, to ever contribute anything of use to this place again. Think what you may. Everyone does, whether it's true or not. It's irrelevant to me. I've been accused of various identities and other bad things and I don't care anymore.

By the way, the only school article I ever cared about was my own elementary school, which I saved by improving it (with the help of an unknown wonderful person). That's the extent of my interest in schools, except that I think that schools are such a little percentage of the junk on Wikipedia that I do not understand why it's such a big deal to bother not keeping them.

But, of course, you know everything. (But not really.) You aare just accepting the party line. And me, above reproach in the real (non-wikipedia world) am now , appaarently on a criminal Wikipedia list. Thanks for your irrelevant none-inof. I take back anything good I may have said about you. You are part (obviously) of the click gang. Guess I'll change my name again -- having zero investment -- who cares. Last you will hear from me, as this was obviously a purposeless last-attempt reaching out. And I aam not trying to be "covert" around here, as you suggest, because what would be the point and bother to do so? That is exactly what I have totally given up. There is no point in being covert or otherwise if you don't care. So why should I bother? Xampt 02:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

If you keep saying why should I care, why should I bother, this place is ridiculous...what keeps drawing you back? I'm not part of some gang out to get you, I'm just saying that you recognize that there are some people who will shut you down if they find you out...so why make it obvious that you've returned? I'm just trying to help you out, whether you want to accept what I'm saying as help that's your call. I have nothing against you. I think that if you want to contribute positively, more power to you. Metros232 02:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Since you are practically the only person on my new-identity watch-list, plus you actually replied, I also will reply. Why bother with Wikipedia? It's a mindless way of having something to do while winding up or down, like reading the comics or playing a game at odd spaced-out moments in daily life. There is no way to contribute positively to Wikipedia for me because there is always an unforeseen mindfield to step into (whatever new topic I try) and no protection for an innocent party once that has happened. No, I'll just use Wikipedia to vent my Wikipedia-generated hostility. I am way too uninformed to deal with this place and be, as you recommend, more subtle.

Again though, I suggest to you as I have suggested many times in other places, I think the disillusionment would be less if Wikipedia did not present itself as such a wonderful, kind, helpful place but rather warned the new user to beware of the organized hate groups, vested interests, and protected, sacred cow people and other pitfalls. If I had the expertise, time, etc. I would become a major vandal -- that is how strongly negatively I feel. I know where the mentality of vandalism comes from due to my Wikipedia experience.

And how can I possibly care if they shut me down? That only meant something when I was working hard on articles and cared. For my purposes now, being shut down would be rewarding as it would mean you were actually paying attention to my stupid little (and you are saying, transparant) inputs. I am hardly any kind of threat to Wikipedia and never have been. That idea is giving me way too much credit. At my worst I never did anything more than just be (transparently) annoying -- flipping out after weeks of being under constant duress while receiving no help or defense -- nothing even remotely as mean or harsh as measures instantly taken against me. Xampt 13:17, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:Email

I responded to your email. I really don't know for sure, but I asked another admin to review it. Nishkid64 00:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikification

Hi! I got your message. I didn't know I'd become a trusted member of the wikification project! :) I only had a quick look a at a few of the edits User:JubalHarshaw made recently, and they seem okay to me. The degree to which additional links are added does't have hard and fast rules. What one person might consider relevant to add as a link, others might not. I might have added a couple more here or there but I don't see a huge problem with what he has done. Are there particular articles that you felt are of concern? Regards. --Whpq 16:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, please, cite me some examples so I can improve them. I was totally unaware that your concern about my work (or lack thereof) was at the level where you'd consult other wikifiers. JubalHarshaw 02:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

You could have cited the examples you provided to Whpq to me just as easily. I'm confused as to why you did not. JubalHarshaw 02:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I have some made some improvements to the articles you references on the above user's talk page. Perhaps next time you would bring your concerns directly to me? JubalHarshaw 04:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Virginia State Route 16

I don't understand. Are you saying that someone who is reading about the history and wonders where Mouth of Wilson is (once an article is written there, which will eventually happen) must scroll up and find the link to it?

The two Stony Ridge links are different; one is for the actual ridge and one is for the community named after it.

Can you point out which references are used more than once?

Thank you for reviewing it, but I believe your comments to be misguided. --NE2 19:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context#What generally should not be linked, specifically the 3rd bullet of that. That explains that things should not be linked multiple times as they clutter the page and make maintenance harder.

Also see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links)#Overlinking. This explains what I mean by having too much linking in the article. Other terms I see appearing frequently are Volney, Brushy Mountain, and North Tazewell.

As for references, at least the reference that cites the July 24 and 25, 1931 meeting is linked twice. Also look at WP:CITE because the references probably need some cleaning up. I'm not sure exactly how to cite minutes like that, but you'd probably need to add at least the publisher and date you access the minutes, especially since this is coming through a web citation.

Hope this helps and clears up that my comments weren't, in fact, misguided. Metros232 19:57, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

"It is not uncommon to repeat a link that had last appeared much earlier in the article, but there's hardly ever a reason to link the same term twice in the same section." I believe I follow this.

There are actually two separate mountains named Brushy Mountain, which I am unsure about how to disambiguate: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mountains#Figuring out the name of a mountain.

Are you saying that the status of this article depends on whether other articles exist - so if I made the red links blue this could be a good article?

I hadn't noticed the duplicated reference; thanks.

Why would the date I accessed the minutes matter? The minutes were created long ago; they don't change. --NE2 20:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

A better way to think of the "how often to re-wikilink" question is to look at the page. If you generally see the term more than once in the same view, then it's probably better to link it just once. If it's a longer article and you've scrolled down where you can't see the first instance anymore before you get to the second one, then it's a good idea to wikilink again. I'm not saying that "you'll never be a good article because you have too many redlinks" but what I am saying is that you have an excessive amount of links period and this includes a lot of redlinks. It'd be best to reduce the number.

And as for the dates on the citation, that's pretty much to say that "As of such and such a date, this webpage containing this information was up and readily available as cited". Not "as of this date, the minutes stated this." Metros232 00:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

It looks like the whole good article process is too anal retentive for me to bother with. And for what - a plus sign on the talk page? I don't think so. --NE2 00:21, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:Mattisse

Well, there really is no reason to block Xampt, since he was not really being disruptive. However, I appreciate the fact that you went as far as to pursue the matter on your own hands. I don't think any action will be taken on Mattisse, and hopefully she won't keep opting to use sockpuppets. Nishkid64 23:01, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:Auburn Adventist Academy

As to your comment and bloacking of the Auburn Adventist Academy page. So if I email or put something on the website stating that is can be used. Then my information I had on the Auburn Adventist Academy page will come back? Yes or NO? and when i say information I mean all the stuff I had on the page. The whole entire page back to normal. Will its? Again Yes or No? --User:Antwonw

Probably. you'd have to send an email proving you have permission to use it. Metros232 15:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Professional Organizing

Please advise why adding a link to professional organizing in the manner I did was considered inappropriate. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rfein1 (talk • contribs)

Because, basically, you were spamming the articles with a link to your article. The links you were adding had little to no relevance to the articles to which you added them. It'd be like me adding "See also Hood College" to any article that involved some term about education. It's remotely related, but isn't appropriate to add it. Metros232 17:45, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Inverness Royal Academy

Thank you for cleaning up my wikifying mistakes on Inverness Royal Academy. I'm new and just getting the hang of it.

Stu1024 21:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Pelican Shit

He's banned. That's the reason he's tagged. --SunStar Net 00:17, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. Apologies for that. But people like Karmafist etc. aren't denied "banned" notices. --SunStar Net 10:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Editor review

See your editor review.... it's positive! --SunStar Net 13:00, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Greenbrier, Virginia

You disambiguated Indian River High School to Indian River High School (Delaware) on the Greenbrier, Virginia page... even though Delaware is definitely not the Indian River High in Virginia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5ptcalvinist (talk • contribs)

My apologies, I must have clicked the wrong link when disambiguating the links. I just went back and doubled checked my other disambigs for that and it looks like that's the only one that was in error. Metros232 23:44, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Belinda Evans

Hi,

Thanks for your message. Thinking about it again, I probably shouldn't have wikify templated this, it isn't bad. I guesss I didn't like the style of the biography paragraph, (lots of short sentences like "Evans this...,""Evans that..." in quick succession. I'll remove the template and perhaps just have a look at it myself!

Best wishes,

Mdcollins1984 08:00, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

AGS

Then would you please stop removing the picture of the School. It is the only licenced photo the principal will allow to be used. Got a problem with it, send an email to her. You'll find her email addy on the AGS website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cal118 (talk • contribs)

I've replied on your talk page to keep the discussion centralized. Metros232 14:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Nas v. Jay-Z

I see your are about to list this article on AfD. Conceding that there are several problems with the article in the current condition, I do not think the problems rise to the level of deletion. They can be fixed in time. Please re-consider. Ramsquire ^{(throw me a line)} 22:08, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Discuss why you think that in the AfD. Metros232 22:11, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I guess I was too late in making my request. When I went to vote, the AfD wasn't up yet, so I figured I'd discuss it with you before it went live. My response is on the AfD page now though. Ramsquire ^{(throw me a line)} 22:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Fantastic

You just sent a message to a fairly sizable portion of people accessing the wikipedia at Carleton University. We get split about 20 ways, so there's no differentiation for a particular jackass who has a hate-on against some BC college. So just a little tip, next time, run an ip check at What's my IP?. It'll save you some embarassment. --134.117.196.54 17:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Right, however, a shared IP that vandalizes is still vandalism. A vandal needs to be warned. If it gets to the point where we realize that there's a LOT of vandalism coming from an IP, we have to take action. So because of a jackass, you all would be harmed. So try to keep the jackasses in line instead of telling me about how I just embarrassed myself by placing a vandalism warning properly. Thanks, Metros232 17:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Well how exactly do you propose that we keep people in line? It's a fairly large campus. And using PCs is consdered fairly private. And since there's no central authority on computer use on campus (aside from don't do anything illegal), and there's no tracking, it's impossible to pin down the individual jackass who went and vandalized the article. And since this guy is probably a vandalizing jackass, it's not likely that he'll pay attention to a warning that you send him. I understand that you're just doing your job, but what you're doing is incredibly futile.

Nagel Middle School

I know some of that might not be encylopedic, but it adds some info to the page. I cannot find a reason why it shouldn't be on there (the only four reasons I can think of removing some thing are 1.It has no source 2.It is vandilism 3. It makes the page too long 4.It is innacurate). Noha307 20:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Lack of information > unencyclopedic cruft that is just added to fill space. Metros232 20:19, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

AFC West

It's almost all lists, no refs/ext links/sections, etc. Sumoeagle179 20:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Well in that case maybe template:expand, template:sections, and template:unreferenced would be more appropriate. Metros232 20:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry

Uh oh! I am extremely sorry for the mistake. Yes, I have done moves previously, along with, of course, history merge. This was a mistake. In fact, I have done same mistake for another article today, I guess! Have to check out. I am sorry. This won't be repeated. Thanks a lot. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:51, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

It's okay. If you crawl back into my first archive, my first edits made the same mistake. Whoops :) Metros232 16:53, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Couldn't resist

Afraid I lobbed a hand grenade at the newbie. Is that greater than or lesser than biting them? Fethers 21:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I've left a message on yours, Brettybabe, and Shen's talk pages. Just leave each other alone, walk away from it all, and let things go back to normal. The article is gone, the discussion is close, there is nothing left to do now (and bashing each other isn't productive). Metros232 22:36, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

just ansewer this then how am i doing Vandalism to your page looks to me like your the one doing the Vandalism by removing everything that makes you look bad even when its the truth Shen420 02:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC) i just read the Vandalism page and i qoute "Vandalism is any addition, deletion, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia." witch i hawell ok ve not done at all

You're right, vandalism might be the wrong term. Harrassment, however, is something your actions qualify as. Metros232 02:24, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Harrassment? well hrmm ok i geuss if showing you the errors of your ways is something you dont like to hear then i geuss so Shen420 03:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Arroyo Seco Junior High School

Good work. Keep at it. Thanks for helping out. -Will Beback · † · 18:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

University of Mary Washington

Hi, there. Do you have any thoughts regarding the middlesell.com link that keeps getting added to University of Mary Washington? --Takeel 03:07, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey, Marylander--knock it off. No one is touching your school. Leave the University of Mary Washington page alone. Our site is used as a portal by over one half of the University of Mary Washington, and it's an invaluable (you probably don't know what that word means since you attend Hood College) resource for our student body. Furthermore, how can you "holier than thou" editors remove our link when leaving up the other two--ones which are not on the umw.edu domain?

Sounds to me like we have some corruption and bias within wikipedia. Oh, and if you delete this, you'll just prove my point? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Analyzethis (talk • contribs)

No one is touching my school because I am not adding inappropriate links. You don't have the right to tell me to stay off the page because this is a Wiki and anyone can edit anything so long as they stay without the policies and guidelines of the community. Your edits are outside those policies and guidelines. Metros232 04:04, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Re [1]

I have been placing the template when there are multiple reports listed on WP:AIV since an administrative response to active vandalism is somewhat time-critical. John254 05:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

ElecoSlim

Sorry I created this stub.... I created a fair few of them... sorry! Maybe they should be deleted... my mistake! --SunStar Net 15:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Then why don't you tag them as {{db-author}}? Metros232 16:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

All deleted under CSD A7. --SunStar Net 16:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Please remove the edit

Please remove the article from the deletion. The mention of "Another school" Has triggered it. Remove the tag immediatly as I' am cleaning up the article now. I will remove it myself if nesscery. Galactian 19:14, 19 November 2006 (UTC)