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== Open conversation ==


May I have your email or phone number to have quick conversation. I want to send you something. Please don't deny it and drop an email to mahdi.jahangir@gmail.com.
May I have your email or phone number to have quick conversation. I want to send you something. Please don't deny it and drop an email to mahdi.jahangir@gmail.com.

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Sources

Sent you some pages of Floor, Willem (2006) The Persian Gulf: A Political and Economic History of Five Port Cities, 1500-1730. Thought you might be interested. - LouisAragon (talk) 02:33, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sent you another mail. - LouisAragon (talk) 13:26, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon: Replied. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:25, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ditto. - LouisAragon (talk) 19:23, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon: Ditto back lel. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:15, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Was just checking some stuff. I'm not really sure how we should define the criteria for an individual in order to be added to Category:Safavid generals. All these "beglarbegs" for example, were military commanders as well, apart from being known as "governor". Should we just add all of them to the category in question as a matter of habit? Will be one very large category in that case. I know that there are still alooot of categories to be made for all the individuals, but I believe this is just one of those minor things that we should get cleared up early on, haha.
- I've got another source that I'd really like to send to you, but the file is too large unfortunately ("On the Ethno-Social Background of Four Gholām Families from Georgia in Safavid Iran". Studia Iranica (32)"). - LouisAragon (talk) 00:00, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon:
- Hmm, not sure. Perhaps we should start creating hakem, beglarbegi. etc categories? Do what you think is best.
- Haha that's fine - do you have any sources about the Lurs/Laks/Bakhtiaris/Kurds (and/or their families, such as the Zangana, Zand etc) during the Safavid/Afsharid/Zand period? --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:58, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah thats a good one. We probably should. Will start creating them in the near future. - LouisAragon (talk) 22:07, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, I might have some specific stuff about the Zangana and Zands during the Safavid period. Not entirely sure though. Will let you know! - LouisAragon (talk) 22:07, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, didn't Karim Khan force numerous Khanates into submission? Referring to the changes you made to the Zand dynasty map. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:05, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon: Apparently not, according to the Cambridge History of Iran. The Khanates of Azerbaijan were more or less independent, whilst only nominally under the suzerainty of the Zands. Mazandaran and Astarabad was barely under Zand rule as well. The Caucasian Khanates seem to have been independent/under Georgian rule. But I am ofc all ears if you have a source(s) that dispute that claim. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:08, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Some material;

  • "Born in 1730, he was the son of Panāh Khan of the Javānšīr tribe, which lived in the plains of Qarābāḡ (Bāmdād, I, p. 10). Nāder Shah Afšār had forced the tribe and its khans to submit to him and to accompany him to Khorasan. After Nāder’s death, Panāh Khan returned to Qarābāḡ and managed to penetrate the eastern sector of the Armenian enclave of mountainous Qarābāḡ (Qarābāḡī, pp. 52-59). In the second half of the century, Ebrāhīm Khan built a strong fortress in Šūšī/Šūša which was referred to, during his lifetime, as Panāhābād (idem, p. 72). When Karīm Khan Zand took control of much of Persia, he forced Panāh Khan to come to Shiraz, where he died as a hostage. " -- EBRĀHĪM ḴALĪL KHAN JAVĀNŠĪR, Enc. Iranica Vol. VIII, Fasc. 1, pp. 71-73
  • "By 1762 another ruler and dynasty, Karim Khan Zand (1750-1779), took control of most of Iran and was recognzied as their suzerain by the khans of eastern Armenia [that is, the khans of Karabakh and Yerevan]. His seat of power was in southern Iran, however, and Transcaucasia was left to Ibrahim Khan of Karabagh and King Erekle II (1762-1798) of eastern Georgia (...) -- Bournoutian, Georga (2002). A Concise History of the Armenian People: (from Ancient Times to the Present). (ed. 2). Mazda Pub. ISBN 978-1568591414
  • "(...) "Heraclius II, after his occupation of Erivan in 1749 and defeat of his former ally Azad in 1751-2, could afford largely to ignore the changing situation south of the Aras. After it became obvious that Mashhad (a minor Afsharid remnant at that time) was no longer the seat of the government, and probably about the time of the Zand army's progress through Azarbaijan (1762-1763), Heraclius tendered his submission to the Zand Vakil and received his diploma as Vali of Gurjistan - the traditional Safavid office, by this time an empty honorific." -- - Fisher et al. (1991). The Cambridge History of Iran Vol. 7. page 96 Cambridge University Press, 10 okt. 1991 ISBN 978-0521200950

... In other words; definetely nominal suzerainty (de jure), and recognized as such. De facto, probably not that much. I can search for more later. - LouisAragon (talk) 19:55, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

LouisAragon: I've reverted the map. Btw, I guess I should expand the northern borders of the map further then? --HistoryofIran (talk) 21:17, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
-Yeah we need to pinpoint that down in the near future.
-PS1, I wonder whether this dude is the father of Fath-Ali Khan Daghestani... Would be surely interesting to find out. PS2; I just made a start with this article. - LouisAragon (talk) 00:44, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon:
-Yeah that's interesting, he possibly could have been his father indeed.
-Awesome, that's one more important Safavid article created. --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:46, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon: Btw, do you think we should create Category:17th-century Safavid people etc like the Category:17th-century Ottoman people? There are quite a lot of articles of non-Iranian people in Safavid Iran. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:05, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, we need those categories 100%. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:53, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Returning to our talk about the Zand map; it should thus additionally include almost all of Armenia (Khanate of Yerevan), Nakhchivan (Khanate of Nakhchivan), Karabagh (Karabagh Khanate). Not sure what to do with eastern Georgia/Kartli-Kakheti, and the other khanates though. For example, as demonstrated above, Erekle II was Karim Khans subject on paper, but de facto, the former basically had full autonomy (Cambridge History of Iran). Even moreso than the other khanates. Perhaps shading that area with a different colour (e.g. "the area in light-blue shows the Kingdom of Kartli-Kakheti, which was de jure a Zand territory, but de facto autonomous"). I believe all other khanates that I did not mention were nominal vassals of Karim Khan as well (e.g. Quba, Darband, etc.) but that they were practically independent in reality. For example, check these notes (pp. 44-45) -> [1] - LouisAragon (talk) 17:53, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I believe Matthee et al. sums it up, additionally, pretty well here; "Although Karim Khan was recognized as overlord over most of Iran after 1763, with large parts independent or semi-autonomous (...) none of these local khans ever placed his own name on his coins" (p. 170, Matthee et al. (2013). The Monetary History of Iran: From the Safavids to the Qajars) - LouisAragon (talk) 17:53, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, if you have some spare time in the near future, would you be able to make a start with Safavid Georgia? I'll be able to pick it up afterwards. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:55, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon:
-I've made some changes to map, what do you think?
-Honestly, I have no idea how to create that article, since from what I've understood it seems that there were more than one Georgian kingdom under Safavid suzerainty, which I barely have any knowledge about. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:23, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the belated response mate;
- The remaining part of Armenia should be shaded dark blue as well I believe.
- Its alright. I thought you might have some additional info about the provinces, territories that I wouldn't have access to. Anyhow, I just made a brief start myself (Safavid Georgia). Its not complete/perfect obviously, but at least its something. What do you think?
- One more thing about "maps". I just had a look at the Qajar dynasty map as well. Basically, all of Kartli and Kakheti should be added to it, not just Tiflis/lower Kartli. Would you perhaps be able to adjust that later?
- I'll be able to send you some more sources later today/tomorrow. I'll notify you ofc when its done. ;-) - LouisAragon (talk) 17:46, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

LouisAragon:
-Will do.
-It's awesome, great work.
-Hmm, I'll take a look at it. Not sure if I can edit a map like that with Paint. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:17, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Alrighttt. Check your mail btw, sent you some more material. - LouisAragon (talk) 21:25, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon: Replied. --HistoryofIran (talk) 21:42, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"Kurdish Christians" -- "In the year 338 AD, a Kurdish ruler by the name Tirdad converted to Christianity. It has been speculated that he was from the Hawraman region of Kurdistan.[4] (...) Majority of Kurds adopted Islam after the Arab conquest of the Sasanian Empire but their faith sat lightly on them, it was not until the Ottoman Turks, who, with considerable political acumen, saw the sole means by which they could attach the Kurds to themselves was through their religion, and did everything possible to promote Islam amongst them. However, there were Kurdish converts to Christianity even after the spread of Islam. In the ninth century, a Kurd named Nasr or Narseh converted to Christianity, and changed his name to Theophobos during the reign of Emperor Theophilus and was the emperor's intimate friend and commander for many years.[6]".
Lel, learning something new everyday. - LouisAragon (talk) 00:42, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon: Indeed, this needs to get fixed in the near future. --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:37, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mate,

  • Some more stuff I found regarding the complexity surrounding "Shahverdi Sultan". -- "Arriving at Dzegvi to join the Kartlians, George's troops were attacked and annihilated, on the Easter Day on 6 April 1561, by the Safavid army under Shahverdi Sultan, a Qajar beylerbey of Karabakh, at the battle of Tsikhedidi. George himself was killed in action.[1][2]" -- I guess this must be the 2nd Shahverdi Sultan?...
  • Also, even though we haven't really yet put our focus on it, I noticed some huge errors on this "Afsharid dynasty" map. Firstly, about the eastern border. Nader Shah occupied parts to the east of the Indus for like....3-4 months in 1739. When he left Delhi literally a few months later, he ceded everything to the east of the Indus back to the Mughals (Axworthy 2010), p. 195, 212, 216). I don't think its suitable to add that all on the map. It gives the erroneous impression, and I've already spotted some innocent users on writing this, as if they controlled North India/East of the Indus River until Nader's death in 1747.
  • About the Central Asian borders, we are in a dire need of some adjustments as well. I noticed that the current map still includes the nonsensical changes made by that sockpuppet, "Artin Mehraban/History of Persia". These changes made by him need to removed as well, as the Afsharids didn't control that much of the region. Also, Iranica's description on this matter is again one of those cases where they are extremely vague and borderline incorect. Iranica uses "Iran, Central Asia and North India" to describe the maximum extent of the empire, but this is extremely weird, as it leaves the Caucasus, Armenia, Georgia, Afghanistan, a part of Pakistan, eastern Anatolia, Mesopotamia, etc. out. Hence I wouldn't use Iranica word for word verbatim in this regard.

Anyhow, to put things short, I think it would be really great if you could adjust it in the near future by 1) removing the changes in Central Asia made by the sock sock 2) removing everything to the east of the Indus/Kabul. By doing that we'll actually have a map that comes close to what it was at its peak, which was in 1741/1743. (sorry for the many map "requests" recently, referring to the Zand/Qajar ones of two weeks ago as well). - LouisAragon (talk) 19:53, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

LouisAragon:
Aight, thanksss. - LouisAragon (talk) 00:19, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sent you a mail. - LouisAragon (talk) 23:32, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon: Done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:56, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You gonna expand some articles about Safavid architecture? Just wondering, because I saw this. - LouisAragon (talk) 01:01, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon: Nah, suprisingly the source has loads of information about holders of certain Safavid offices, such as the grand vizier. Perhaps I'll be able to fill out the list of missing grand viziers. HistoryofIran (talk)
Wow really? Didn't know. I once used Google Books to search for some info about Safavid offices. That book by Blake showed up alot of times. Turned out however that the ppl responsible for scanning in stuff @ Google Books, simply scanned the wrong book; the material that Google Books shows for "Stephen Blake" is actually Floor's "Safavid Government Institutions". You can see Bu Rob13's explanation here. - LouisAragon (talk) 01:08, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon: Well fak. --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:03, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon: Sent you a mail. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:10, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Replied. - LouisAragon (talk) 23:42, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Should the Category:Historians of the Achaemenid Empire include the "Iranian historians" category? In a similar fashion to Category:Safavid historians, Category:Buyid historians, etc.? Just interested in your opinion. - LouisAragon (talk) 20:07, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

LouisAragon: Err, dunno. Do what you think is best. Also, forgot to answer back in mail, I'll do it in a bit. --HistoryofIran (talk) 21:39, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Alright I'll just keep it the way it was then. Sure, lemme know when you have sent your email reply. Oh, another question as well, considering you're much better informed about the Sasanian era than me; should the article Vakhtang I of Iberia include these categories? Category:Vassal rulers of the Sasanian Empire, Category:Christians in the Sasanian Empire and Category:Sasanian generals? And should Mirian III of Iberia include Category:Christians in the Sasanian Empire? For consistency's sake. - LouisAragon (talk) 21:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Also, regarding the Zands; I notice you made this category, Category:Vassal and tributary states of the Zand dynasty. It should be added to the Karabakh Khanate, Erivan Khanate, Nakhchivan Khanate, Kingdom of Kartli-Kakheti as well. Their relation with Karim Khan was different as compared to the Qajars, the latter who established actual direct rule/hegemony over them. Also, will you add the info regarding Karim Khan's relation with the Khanates + Erekle (see sources I dropped above) later yourself? Honestly, the Karim Khan Zand article is another one of your articles very near/at GA quality. Probably the only major thing thats lacking is the stuff about him and those khanates/Erekle. Right now, you have quite a few articles "waiting" at GA quality. You should just nominate them IMHO. As far as I know, there is no actual policy that requires you to nominate one at a time. Anyways, I'm cluttering your talk page a tad too much right now, so I'll stop writing. ;)). - LouisAragon (talk) 21:23, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon: I've added it on all the articles besides the Kingdom of Kartli-Kakheti, I will most likely get molested if I add it here. And yes, I expect to complete Karim Khan's article in this summer. The articles close to GA potential still need a final touch, some of them than others, which I will hopefully get to in this summer as well. Also, I will fix the issue with the Afsharid dynasty map this week. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:08, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Why do you think so? Being a de jure vassal still means you're a vassal, albeit on paper. Actually, it was Erekle himself who delivered Azad Khan to Karim Khan and decided to tender his own submission to him (per Perry and Cambridge History of Iran). Anyways, I just expanded the article a bit and also added the category.
- Btw let me know about those Sasanian-era cats when you have time. (see above)
- Oh, I received Floor's Safavid Government Institutions today. Lemme know which pages/info you need, and I'll send all of them to you. ;-) - LouisAragon (talk) 22:46, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon:
-Regarding the Sasanian categories, I definitely think that the articles should have those categories.
-Thanks, I'll let you know :). --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:50, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAragon: Sent you a mail regarding the Afsharid map. --HistoryofIran (talk) 21:48, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yo just wanted to let you know, I'm now in full possession of; Floor, Willem M. (2008). Titles and Emoluments in Safavid Iran: A Third Manual of Safavid Administration, by Mirza Naqi Nasiri.
You know where to find me :-) - LouisAragon (talk) 15:14, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

LouisAragon: Awesome, will do mate. I am taking a lil break atm since I really wanna fix my back. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:06, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Aighttt good to know. Take it easy with that back. You're gonna need it for a looong time. - LouisAragon (talk) 23:54, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note for when you return bruv; check the convo I had with Tataryn on his talk page (in case you haven't yet). - LouisAragon (talk) 23:09, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Iraq After The Muslim Conquest

Hello HistoryofIran! You used this source to create Hazarbed years ago, but now, unfortunately, it's not available on Google Books. Do you have a PDF? I really would like to have such source, but I don't know where there is a PDF archive. Cheers!--Renato de carvalho ferreira (talk) 21:43, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Renato de carvalho ferreira: Yeah, I have quite a lot of pages of the book stored in my mail (pages 27-99 and 180-213 with info about the Hazarbed and alot more). Here's the mail I use for Wikipedia, contact me so I can send them to you. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:31, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Can you help verify translations of articles from Farsi

Hello,

Would you be able to help evaluate the accuracy of translations of Wikipedia articles from Farsi to English Wikipedia?

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This would involve evaluating a translated article on English Wikipedia by comparing it to the original Farsi article, and marking it "Pass" or "Fail" based on whether the translation faithfully represents the original. Here's the reason for this request:

There are a number of articles on English Wikipedia that were created as machine translations from different languages including Farsi , using the Content Translation tool, sometimes by users with no knowledge of the source language. The config problem that allowed this to happen has since been fixed, but this has left us with a backlog of articles whose accuracy of translation is suspect or unknown, including some articles translated from Farsi. In many cases, other editors have come forward later to copyedit and fix any English grammar or style issues, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the translation is accurate, as factual errors from the original translation may remain. To put it another way: Good English is not the same as good translation.

If you can help out, that would be great. Here's a sample of the articles that need checking:

All you have to do, is compare the English article to the Farsi article, and mark it "Pass" or "Fail" (templates {{Pass}} and {{Fail}} may be useful). (Naturally, if you feel like fixing an inaccurate translation and then marking it "Pass", that's even better, but it isn't required.)

If you can help, please let me know. Thanks! Mathglot (talk) 05:42, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately I can't read the Persian script. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:29, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oh. You have a {{user fa}} box on your user page, so I thought you were a native speaker. Thanks anyway! Mathglot (talk) 07:36, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the Turkic dynasties of Iran

The page says: The following is a list of dynasties, states or empires which are Turkic-speaking, of Turkic origins, or both. So you have no right to remove Afshars, Qajars, Safavids. Beshogur (talk) 19:03, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Beshogur: That doesn't change the fact that neither of those dynasties were 'Turko-Persian/Iranian states'. I am still waiting for a (academic) source(s) that supports your edits. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:28, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I've restored the edit long time ago to its earlier version. Beshogur (talk) 19:34, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Beshogur: You haven't though? The dynasties are still listed there. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:35, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Help save these files?

This collection of files and this file are nominated for deletion.
It would be nice of you to leave a comment.
Thank you.
Rye-96 (talk) 14:40, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Safavid Grand Viziers

Dear HistoryofIran, I want to thank you for editing the List of Safavid Grand Viziers. I want to inform you that in the book "Zubdat al-Tavarikh" It is mentioned that "Mortezaqoli Khan" was "Vakil-e Divan" and not the grand vizier of Tahmasp II. I also want to be familiar with your sources for the viziership of "Mirza Abdol-Karim". I saw his name in "Zubdat al-Tavarikh" as "E'demad al-Dowle" which was the title of Safavids' Grand Viziers, but in the book "Ashraf Afghan on the throne of Isfahan: narration of the Dutch witnesses" he is just considered as "Mostowfi-ye Khasse (Special state accountant). I am not familiar with "Farajollah Khan Abdollah", "Mirza Mohammad Hossein" and "Mirza Mohammad Rahim". Please, introduce me your source or sources which mention their names. About "Mirza Abdollah", I should say that he was the son of "Mirza Davud Mar'ashi (Custodian of Astan-e Quds-e Razavi)" so he must be the brother of Suleiman II of Persia. There is another figure who might be one of Tahmasp II's Grand Viziers: "Ismail Beg E'temad al-Dowle" who signed the Treaty of Saint Petersburg (1723) on the side of Safavids. Saeed Nafisi mentioned his name with the title of "E'demad al-Dowle" but did not directly called him the Grand Vizier of Tahmasp II. In "Alamara-ye Naderi" he is mentioned as "Tabin-e Vazir-e A'zam" which I do not know what means exactly. At the end I should say that "Rajab-Ali Beg" and "Rajab-Ali Khan" maybe was one person. "Zubdat al-Tavarikh" mentioned that "Rajab-Ali Beg" was "Nazer-e Boyutat" at the beginning of the reign of Tahmasp II and "Alamara-ye Naderi" mentioned "Rajab-Ali Khan E'temad al-Dowle" was the Grand Vizier of Tahmasp II which started his viziership after the Battle of Murche-Khort and died 2 months before the deposion of Tahmasp II. Best regards Shfarshid (talk) 03:03, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there - the article is not yet done. The source I primarily use is this one [2]. --HistoryofIran (talk) 10:45, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Shfarshid (talk) 03:48, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats!

Congrats on reaching GA with Arsaces I of Parthia! A great article on a pivotal figure in Iranian history. Keep up the good work! - LouisAragon (talk) 23:23, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Nowruz

This graphical design of mine, even though is not prestigious enough to represent Nowruz, but as a symbol of good faith for the beginning of a new friendship, is presented to you.

Happy Nowruz, the most accurate new year festival with respect to astronomical calculations!

I have decided that if a group of few users can be formed, together we start a new wikiproject, to make a tree-view of detailed content of all policies and guidelines for handy usage of ourselves (in Iran wikiproject) and the new users. Here is the proto-type of what I have in mind. I have always felt lack of any such tool for wikipedia contributors. If you were interested, I would be glad to see you in this wikiproject. --Shahreman (talk) 07:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Uh sure I guess, I'm in. --HistoryofIran (talk) 10:47, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Good Work

Hello HistoryofIran, let me congratulate you, first and again for Nowruz and New Iranian Year, second for your good work on the history of our country Iran which I see you are continuing. As I am also interested in creating articles about history, including of our own, I hope, somehow, in this new year, we can work together more. Thank You Alex-h (talk) 09:29, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks mate, and likewise! --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:44, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello HistoryofIran. I am not sure why you delete all my edits. One main source for this king is Pliny the Elder. In the moment he is not once mentioned in the article. The article mainly refers to modern authors making it very hard (or impossible) to see what is fact and what are suggestions by modern historians. best wishes -- Udimu (talk) 17:25, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If there is a certain suggestion by a modern historian then it will be mentioned thats it's a suggestion and not fact. The information on the article (well at least the properly sourced ones) is fact. Hyspaosines being appointed governor is already written in the governorship section. But yeah the article is very incomplete. Also, mind you that ancient/medieval historians tend to say inaccurate/biased stuff, which is often corrected in modern sources. Also p2, even if the source can be viewed online you still have to add a citation. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:40, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A cheeseburger for you!

For your contributions on "Hyspaosines". Shahreman (talk) 18:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:05, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA's

In addition to my reply on my talk page; you could ask Cplakidas and Attar-Aram syria to review your articles. I sure they'd be willing to help you out. As you know they're two excellent editors who edit late antiquity/classical antiquity/Islamic, etc. articles, and they both review GA/FA-nominees as well. You should definitely pay them a visit when you have time. :-) - LouisAragon (talk) 15:03, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Example:[3] - LouisAragon (talk) 16:01, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Hormizd II

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Hormizd II you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Royroydeb -- Royroydeb (talk) 16:21, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, thank you! --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:09, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Hormizd II

The article Hormizd II you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Hormizd II for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Royroydeb -- Royroydeb (talk) 17:41, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Open conversation

May I have your email or phone number to have quick conversation. I want to send you something. Please don't deny it and drop an email to mahdi.jahangir@gmail.com. Mjahangir 17:45, 13 April 2019 (UTC)