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→Etymology: The etymology of the Australian slang "bogan" MAY derive from "bogun" as suggested, but until any recognised dictionary endorses that original research, it's just unknown. |
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==Etymology== |
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The etymology of Bogan is not unclear. [[Boggart|Bogan]] is old English word from folklore for a small, disheveled (badly dressed), usually malevolent (ill behaved) household spirit. Similar to a [[Boggart|boggart]], brownie, or bugbear. <ref>[[Boggart|Bogan]]</ref> The parallels between the dress, behavior, and overall appearance of the Australian Bogan and the Bogans of folklore are easily apparent.[[Special:Contributions/2605:A601:1143:DC00:593E:36F9:F489:4613|2605:A601:1143:DC00:593E:36F9:F489:4613]] ([[User talk:2605:A601:1143:DC00:593E:36F9:F489:4613|talk]]) 18:49, 2 July 2018 (UTC) |
The etymology of Bogan is not unclear. [[Boggart|Bogan]] is old English word from folklore for a small, disheveled (badly dressed), usually malevolent (ill behaved) household spirit. Similar to a [[Boggart|boggart]], brownie, or bugbear. <ref>[[Boggart|Bogan]]</ref> The parallels between the dress, behavior, and overall appearance of the Australian Bogan and the Bogans of folklore are easily apparent. [[Special:Contributions/2605:A601:1143:DC00:593E:36F9:F489:4613|2605:A601:1143:DC00:593E:36F9:F489:4613]] ([[User talk:2605:A601:1143:DC00:593E:36F9:F489:4613|talk]]) 18:49, 2 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:But this page [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bogan&oldid=4853879 started] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bogan&oldid=7763090 grew] all about the Australian slang term for a scorned social class. If you believe other usages of the term are [[WP:NOTE|significant in an encyclopaedia]], you can create articles for them and a Disambiguity page. Since the [[Boggart|Bogun]] (with a "U") already exists on the article you linked, you could add a [[Template:Distinguish]] between the articles if you think they're really likely to be mistaken for one another. However, until a recognised dictionary publishes that "bogun" is the etymological root of the Australian term "bogan", its etymology remains unclear. Beware of [[WP:OR]]. [[Special:Contributions/49.180.142.155|49.180.142.155]] ([[User talk:49.180.142.155|talk]]) 02:33, 15 April 2019 (UTC) |
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==Georgian word== |
==Georgian word== |
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There is even an ARTICLE about bogans in Georgian language on wikipedia. Just google "ბოგანო" - same meaning! Please consider this for I am not an advanced wikipedia editor and its up to you to merge these two articles together for they have the same meaning. |
There is even an ARTICLE about bogans in Georgian language on wikipedia. Just google "ბოგანო" - same meaning! Please consider this for I am not an advanced wikipedia editor and its up to you to merge these two articles together for they have the same meaning. |
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[[User:Spontanovich2222|Spontanovich2222]] ([[User talk:Spontanovich2222|talk]]) 12:14, 13 October 2018 (UTC) |
[[User:Spontanovich2222|Spontanovich2222]] ([[User talk:Spontanovich2222|talk]]) 12:14, 13 October 2018 (UTC) |
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:For those following along at home: here's the [https://ka.wikipedia.org/wiki/ბოგანო native page] and [https://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=ka&u=https://ka.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25E1%2583%2591%25E1%2583%259D%25E1%2583%2592%25E1%2583%2590%25E1%2583%259C%25E1%2583%259D&prev=search translated page]. [[Special:Contributions/49.180.142.155|49.180.142.155]] ([[User talk:49.180.142.155|talk]]) 02:33, 15 April 2019 (UTC) |
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Etymology
The etymology of Bogan is not unclear. Bogan is old English word from folklore for a small, disheveled (badly dressed), usually malevolent (ill behaved) household spirit. Similar to a boggart, brownie, or bugbear. [1] The parallels between the dress, behavior, and overall appearance of the Australian Bogan and the Bogans of folklore are easily apparent. 2605:A601:1143:DC00:593E:36F9:F489:4613 (talk) 18:49, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- But this page started and grew all about the Australian slang term for a scorned social class. If you believe other usages of the term are significant in an encyclopaedia, you can create articles for them and a Disambiguity page. Since the Bogun (with a "U") already exists on the article you linked, you could add a Template:Distinguish between the articles if you think they're really likely to be mistaken for one another. However, until a recognised dictionary publishes that "bogun" is the etymological root of the Australian term "bogan", its etymology remains unclear. Beware of WP:OR. 49.180.142.155 (talk) 02:33, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Georgian word
In Georgia we have exact word with same meaning from old Georgian books like The Right Hand of the Grand Master and the word was used in 19th century to describe lower class people, same meaning. I have no idea why and how did the word got in Australia and became a slang. It's not only called "Bogan", but "Bogano" in relative pronoun.
There is even an ARTICLE about bogans in Georgian language on wikipedia. Just google "ბოგანო" - same meaning! Please consider this for I am not an advanced wikipedia editor and its up to you to merge these two articles together for they have the same meaning. Spontanovich2222 (talk) 12:14, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
- For those following along at home: here's the native page and translated page. 49.180.142.155 (talk) 02:33, 15 April 2019 (UTC)