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:[[Charles Eisenstein]] is a layman. His site is not a reliable source on climatology. He should try to get his stuff published in a peer-reviewed journal first. Then he has to convince the scientific community that he has a point (not even that he is right), and then we can quote him. So, please be patient until that happens. --[[User:Hob Gadling|Hob Gadling]] ([[User talk:Hob Gadling|talk]]) 06:59, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
:[[Charles Eisenstein]] is a layman. His site is not a reliable source on climatology. He should try to get his stuff published in a peer-reviewed journal first. Then he has to convince the scientific community that he has a point (not even that he is right), and then we can quote him. So, please be patient until that happens. --[[User:Hob Gadling|Hob Gadling]] ([[User talk:Hob Gadling|talk]]) 06:59, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
::Agree that's a nonRS source. Moroever, this article is not about the scientific workings of the [[climate system]]. Nor is it about the climate system's internal cooling feedbacks or cooling examples of external forcings. Those are covered in [[Climate change]], [[Climate change feedback]] among other places. ''This'' article is about the attention in the public eye given to the minority side a scientific discussion that had its public crescendo in about the 1970s. It's about the public talking about one side of scientific discourse. If you want the science itself, see our main articles on [[Climate change]] and the various sub articles [[User:NewsAndEventsGuy|NewsAndEventsGuy]] ([[User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy|talk]]) 11:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
::Agree that's a nonRS source. Moroever, this article is not about the scientific workings of the [[climate system]]. Nor is it about the climate system's internal cooling feedbacks or cooling examples of external forcings. Those are covered in [[Climate change]], [[Climate change feedback]] among other places. ''This'' article is about the attention in the public eye given to the minority side a scientific discussion that had its public crescendo in about the 1970s. It's about the public talking about one side of scientific discourse. If you want the science itself, see our main articles on [[Climate change]] and the various sub articles [[User:NewsAndEventsGuy|NewsAndEventsGuy]] ([[User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy|talk]]) 11:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
:What was 100% put forward as science is retconned into "conjecture" by those who support the current era's assertions on climate science. Should be changed.

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Newsweek Rewind: Debunking Global Cooling by Rob Verger on 5/23/14 might be useful. . . dave souza, talk 09:38, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Mini-Ice age

The report on the "mini-ice age" prediction has been deleted because it is garbage:

  1. In the original paper [1], the author does not make predictions on Earth weather, but on sunspots.
  2. Sunspots themselves, in terms of the magnitude of their radiant-energy deficit, have a weak effect on terrestrial climate.[2]
  3. The reporter from ScienceDaily indulged in fantasy and POV when writing about an impending mini-ice age, completely unsupported by the research paper.

-BatteryIncluded (talk) 16:38, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

cross reference to Quaternary_glaciation#Next_glacial_period

The disproportionate coverage in the 1970s isn't well-explained at Quaternary_glaciation#Next_glacial_period. Eds here may want to look at that. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 14:02, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Conjecture?

I just want to say that global cooling IS backed with evidence. (Sources: https://charleseisenstein.org/essays/why-i-am-afraid-of-global-cooling/ and http://notrickszone.com/2018/07/07/against-the-forecasts-sea-ice-grows-surface-temperatures-fall-troposphere-cools-polar-regions-stable/ ) You can even see it is happening now (ice caps are growing, polar vortexes, NH surface temperatures are dropping exponentially, ect) even during the 1970's Chris Roe234 (talk) 04:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

At first I just wanted to reply "what planet are you posting from?" but then caught myself.
Charles Eisenstein is a layman. His site is not a reliable source on climatology. He should try to get his stuff published in a peer-reviewed journal first. Then he has to convince the scientific community that he has a point (not even that he is right), and then we can quote him. So, please be patient until that happens. --Hob Gadling (talk) 06:59, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Agree that's a nonRS source. Moroever, this article is not about the scientific workings of the climate system. Nor is it about the climate system's internal cooling feedbacks or cooling examples of external forcings. Those are covered in Climate change, Climate change feedback among other places. This article is about the attention in the public eye given to the minority side a scientific discussion that had its public crescendo in about the 1970s. It's about the public talking about one side of scientific discourse. If you want the science itself, see our main articles on Climate change and the various sub articles NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 11:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
What was 100% put forward as science is retconned into "conjecture" by those who support the current era's assertions on climate science. Should be changed.
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