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* '''ALT1''': ... that the '''[[Phoulkon]]''' was a shield-wall infantry formation of the late and eastern [[Roman Empire]], and the term may have originated from the [[Germanic languages]]?
* '''ALT1''': ... that the '''[[Phoulkon]]''' was a shield-wall infantry formation of the late and eastern [[Roman Empire]], and the term may have originated from the [[Germanic languages]]?
<small>Created by [[User:Sfjyu|Sfjyu]] ([[User talk:Sfjyu|talk]]). Self-nominated at 21:32, 6 September 2019 (UTC)</small>
<small>Created by [[User:Sfjyu|Sfjyu]] ([[User talk:Sfjyu|talk]]). Self-nominated at 21:32, 6 September 2019 (UTC)</small>
* '''ALT2''': ... that the '''[[Phoulkon]]''' was an [[shield wall]] [[Tactical formation|infantry formation]] of the [[Late Roman army|late]] and [[east Roman army]], that classical writers described as both a [[testudo formation|testudo]] and a [[phalanx]]?
* '''ALT2''': ... that the '''[[Phoulkon]]''' was an [[shield wall]] [[Tactical formation|formation]] of the [[Late Roman army|late]] and [[east Roman army]], that classical writers described as both a [[testudo formation|testudo]] and a [[phalanx]]?
* '''ALT3''': ... that the '''[[Phoulkon]]''' was an [[Tactical formation|infantry formation]] of the [[Late Roman army|late]] and [[east Roman army]], and despite contemporary classical writers referring to it as both a [[testudo formation|testudo]] and a [[phalanx]], was actually a [[shield wall]] whose name may have originated from the [[Germanic languages]]?
* '''ALT3''': ... that the '''[[Phoulkon]]''' was an [[Tactical formation|infantry formation]] of the [[Late Roman army|late]] and [[east Roman army]], and despite contemporary classical writers referring to it as both a [[testudo formation|testudo]] and a [[phalanx]], was actually a [[shield wall]] whose name may have originated from the [[Germanic languages]]?
<small>Created by [[User:Sfjyu|Sfjyu]] ([[User talk:Sfjyu|talk]]). Self-nominated at 21:32, 6 September 2019 (UTC)</small>
<small>Created by [[User:Sfjyu|Sfjyu]] ([[User talk:Sfjyu|talk]]). Self-nominated at 21:32, 6 September 2019 (UTC)</small>

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Phoulkon

Created by Sfjyu (talk). Self-nominated at 21:32, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Created by Sfjyu (talk). Self-nominated at 21:32, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

  • New enough, long enough. Must AGF on the citations; the hook matches citation 4 which discusses the possible Germanic etymology of the terms. Fewer than five DYKs; no QPQ needed. This should be good, even if it feels a touch bare. Raymie (tc) 03:54, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but I don't see the last hook fact, may have originated from the Germanic soldiers serving in the military? in the article. I see something about the word having a Germanic origin. The last sentence under Etymology may be supporting the hook fact, but it lacks an inline cite. Citation 4 does talk more about the Germanic military connection, so more could be added to the article to flesh it out. Yoninah (talk) 01:11, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback. I'll work on fleshing the article out just a bit more, and I also rephrased the hook to make it clear that the possible Germanic connection is a linguistic one.Sfjyu (talk) 07:44, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Sfjyu, I've restored your original hook wording, and listed the new hook wording (minus a comma) under ALT1, so that it's clear what the original query about the hook was referring to. I have struck the original hook because of the issues with it, but the wording can still be read. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:49, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @Sfjyu: Honestly? ALT1 is not hooky. Yoninah (talk) 18:02, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
Ok, I've added two possible alternative hooks to the listing for review. Please take another look.Sfjyu (talk) 22:45, 21 September 2019 (UTC)