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I have changed the [[South Korea|South Korean article]] to [[Date and time notation in the United Kingdom|British date format (DMY Format)]], but returned again to [[Date and time notation in the United States|American date format (MDY Format)]], all my efforts were in vain [[Special:Contributions/111.94.241.4|111.94.241.4]] ([[User talk:111.94.241.4|talk]]) 15:48, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
I have changed the [[South Korea|South Korean article]] to [[Date and time notation in the United Kingdom|British date format (DMY Format)]], but returned again to [[Date and time notation in the United States|American date format (MDY Format)]], all my efforts were in vain [[Special:Contributions/111.94.241.4|111.94.241.4]] ([[User talk:111.94.241.4|talk]]) 15:48, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

i feel it's very strange only Asian continent of [[South Korea]] and [[Japan]] articles use [[Date and time notation in the United States|American date format (MDY Format)]] rather than [[Date and time notation in the United Kingdom|British date format (DMY Format)]] make the feel angry ? [[Special:Contributions/111.94.241.4|111.94.241.4]] ([[User talk:111.94.241.4|talk]]) 14:46, 20 December 2019 (UTC)


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Move of Grenoble Alps University to Université Grenoble Alpes

Hello Amakuru, I was looking over the move discussion for Grenoble Alps University to Université Grenoble Alpes, and I would like to suggest reopening the discussion.

It seems that some relevant evidence was not taken into account, which is that both Reuters [1] and The Times [2] refer to the university as "Grenoble Alpes University". This puts into question what seems to be the basis for the move, which is that there is no established English usage.

Also, even if we were to agree that there is no established English usage, I'd query the manner in which Wikipedia policy on using English in article titles was applied here. The policy describes an example involving valley names: For lesser known geographical objects or structures with few reliable English sources, follow the translation convention, if any, used for well known objects or structures of the same type e.g. because Rheintal and Moseltal are translated Rhine Valley and Moselle Valley, it makes sense to translate lesser known valley names in the same way. By analogy, I suggest we should use the English "University" rather than the French "Université", even for a university that is little-known in the English-speaking world.

Please keep in mind that "University" is the overwhelming usage in the titles of English-language Wikipedia articles about universities in countries that use other languages. For example, the German university article titles use "University" rather than "Universität", and the Spanish university article titles use "University" rather than "Universidad", etc. This, even though a Google search on most of those university names would overwhelmingly return the domestic-language versions.

These points, about how to apply the "use English" policy, and the established practice for university article titles on Wikipedia, were not thoroughly addressed in the move discussion.

Thank you kindly for your consideration of this issue. MyPOV (talk) 17:21, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Morning @MyPOV: and thanks for your message. The move discussion you mention is more than two years old, so it would not make sense to re-open the original discussion at this stage. However, if you have new information to bring to the discussion, it would be fine to open a new discussion to propose moving the article back to its previous title. Just follow the instructions at WP:RM to kick that off. It would usually be polite to ping all previous participants in the discussion as well, so that they have a chance to evaluate the new evidence too. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 09:59, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reply @Amakuru:. I will do as you suggest! Kind regards, MyPOV (talk) 14:49, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The South Korean articles like US articles

I need you help, why the almost all South Korean article on Wikipedia use American date Format (MDY Format) like US figures rather than British date format (DMY Format) ? 111.94.241.4 (talk) 10:06, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@111.94.241.4: where an article has particular ties to either the US or the UK, we would use the date format relevant to that country. However, articles regarding South Korea are not tied particularly to any English-speaking country, so we do not have an automatic preference on which format to use for them. That being the case, the guideline at MOS:DATEVAR applies - namely, that we should stick with the format used in the first non-stub version of the article. I'm guessing that as the US has a higher number of editors than the UK, and probably a higher population of Koreans too, the US format has tended to be used more often than the UK. Unless someone has actually gone through and changed them without good reason, we should just stick with the status quo. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 10:36, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed the South Korean article to British date format (DMY Format), but returned again to American date format (MDY Format), all my efforts were in vain 111.94.241.4 (talk) 15:48, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

i feel it's very strange only Asian continent of South Korea and Japan articles use American date format (MDY Format) rather than British date format (DMY Format) make the feel angry ? 111.94.241.4 (talk) 14:46, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

prep 2 > queue 2

Whoops, I didn't realize until after I'd moved to queue that you were working on it! Sorry! Did I screw anything up for you? I was going to start doing the admin checks, then saw you'd edited heavily this morning. --valereee (talk) 13:25, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Valereee: no, that's fine I was actually done with it anyway. I had been doing checks this morning with a view to uploading it to the queue myself, and had reached the end. Not sure if there's a process for indicating to others that you're actively looking at the checks?  — Amakuru (talk) 13:37, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, do you know, I think a question I had about that was the original beginning of the 'kerfuffle' as you called it. :) I was wondering if there was some way to indicate to each other, 'hey, I've checked this one, you don't need to!' so that we didn't replicate one another's work and so others would know that even though I'd moved a prep to queue, I hadn't checked it and wasn't sure I'd have time to. I mean, obviously I can see that you've edited many of these hooks, and that you've also recently edited many of the articles, and you asked a question at dyk talk about a hook you moved out of the set, but for all I know you got called away halfway through or had remaining concerns, since you didn't finalize it with the actual move. I guess it's the actual move that tells other admins, "I'll do/I've done this one." Okay, so good to know you'd finished it, I'll not bother with it, yay! Just got potentially an hour or two of my day back. :D --valereee (talk) 13:49, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Clarification

https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Bonadea_is_a_God_of_roman_religion._Religious_user_names_are_prohibited_in_all_wikis_including_wikipedia.So_Bonadea_user_page_was_deleted.Bonadea_name_was_included_in_Black_list_%22Bonadea%E2%80%9D_user_name_has_been_banned_from_editing_in_all_wikis_.&action=history


Please explain Reason for following blocks ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/MyBuddha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sword_of_Allah

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RfC/User_names/Institutional_memory#Names_of_religious_figures

Really religious usernames are not accepted? Rumbacrush (talk) 16:15, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]