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::::: I stand corrected, you did write "advanced degree", not simply a degree. The statement is sourced though. Even when I was studying in the 80s, Mosaic authorship was not accepted by many scholars, and I was studying at an Evangelical school. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 19:50, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
::::: I stand corrected, you did write "advanced degree", not simply a degree. The statement is sourced though. Even when I was studying in the 80s, Mosaic authorship was not accepted by many scholars, and I was studying at an Evangelical school. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 19:50, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
::::: And there is an article that addresses the entire topic: [[:Mosaic authorship]]. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 19:53, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
::::: And there is an article that addresses the entire topic: [[:Mosaic authorship]]. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 19:53, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
: FYI, I took a look at the source of the statement ''"this view began to be seriously questioned in the 17th century, and today scholars are virtually unanimous in rejecting Mosaic authorship.[1][2]"'' ... the second source is online, and it actually reads ''"There is a consensus among modern biblical scholars that the final text of the Bible is a product of a long evolution"'' Note a consensus is not the same as virtually unanimous. Propose we edit the article to reflect what the cited source actually says.

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Obviously false claim

Today scholars are virtually unanimous in rejecting Mosaic authorship of the Torah. An absurd statement. If you define a Biblical scholar as someone with an advanced degree who vocationally studies, teaches, and writes scholarly works about the Bible, it's likely that a majority, certainly a substantial minority, hold to Mosaic authorship of the first five books. You may not agree with them, but you can't deny they exist. –Blue Hoopy Frood (talk) 13:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And what is the source for your assertion? Dimadick (talk) 13:44, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's a very broad definition of what a scholar is. Your definition would include Bible school graduates who are bloggers. My definition would be those who write scholarly papers on the subject of biblical studies or theology. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:06, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Dimadick: Anecdotal. I personally know several such scholars, and know of several institutes of higher learning where I expect Mosaic authorship is the prevailing view. But the burden of proof is not on me, it's on the one who claims in the body of the article that the indicated POV is "virtually unanimous".
Walter Görlitz: I specified "advanced degree". As you may know, that typically means something above a bachelor's. I added "scholarly works about the Bible" to clarify what I meant by "writes".
FYI, see: WP:NPOVN#Bible POV. Feel free to express alternate viewpoints. :) To be clear, I did not mean to imply that either of you was being militant. –Blue Hoopy Frood (talk) 19:33, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The statement is sourced. You are promoted a fringe theory in modern academic scholarship.--Ermenrich (talk) 19:35, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I stand corrected, you did write "advanced degree", not simply a degree. The statement is sourced though. Even when I was studying in the 80s, Mosaic authorship was not accepted by many scholars, and I was studying at an Evangelical school. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:50, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And there is an article that addresses the entire topic: Mosaic authorship. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:53, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, I took a look at the source of the statement "this view began to be seriously questioned in the 17th century, and today scholars are virtually unanimous in rejecting Mosaic authorship.[1][2]" ... the second source is online, and it actually reads "There is a consensus among modern biblical scholars that the final text of the Bible is a product of a long evolution" Note a consensus is not the same as virtually unanimous. Propose we edit the article to reflect what the cited source actually says.