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:::Two 1954 Pathe News items, "The Army's New Rifle", here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT435uvS0js] and "Demonstration Of The New F. N. Rifle" here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WyEwHwPXTQ]<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/95.144.50.147|95.144.50.147]] ([[User talk:95.144.50.147#top|talk]]) 09:21, 3 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
:::Two 1954 Pathe News items, "The Army's New Rifle", here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT435uvS0js] and "Demonstration Of The New F. N. Rifle" here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WyEwHwPXTQ]<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/95.144.50.147|95.144.50.147]] ([[User talk:95.144.50.147#top|talk]]) 09:21, 3 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::::.280 SAA prototype FAL here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhUfBfr2OBA] |
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Where is India?India used this rifle and this rifle was India's standard rifle,it was used in Indo-Pak war. 14:01, 16 April 2013 (UTC) 14:01, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- Done India is mentioned in the current version.--Xzinger (talk) 13:22, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Match stick trick.
Military L1s usually had a modified selector so that thy could not be set to full auto. This restriction was easily defeated with a match stick. This was the reason, as I recall, why the L1 wasn't legal in Australia during the 60s and 70s, and presumably in other countries. An importer tried to get L1s imported from South Africa, which had a selector mechanism which was trick proof. This was the type that became legal, and could even be seen on sale at Kmart and Big-W. Ex-army guns were never sold to the public. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.87.118.239 (talk) 23:35, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Why a separate article from FAL?
So I've looked through the talk page archive, and I haven't seen anyone else ask this obvious question: Why is this article separate from the FN FAL article?
This is the same rifle, simply produced to slightly different standards, resulting in some components being non-interchangeable, and some being interchangeable. Is this significant enough to warrant this being a separate article? I'd argue it isn't.
Folding stock variants of the FAL (which are all metric pattern) necessarily have the recoil spring relocated from within the stock to beneath the dust cover. This results in some components not being interchangeable with those of the standard fixed stock, metric pattern FAL. Should the folding stock rifles therefore have their own article as well? Obviously not.
Hopefully this article is on someone's watch list so I receive a quick response. Thanks!
- Politics. Politically they're seriously different - as far as AR-15s and M-16s. Then the technical aspect of the metric/inch difference too. I've never known if that was British stupidity, or a British attempt to appease American stupidity. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:56, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- The FAL prototypes were originally chambered for .280 SAA. The FAL came second to the EM-2 in trials but when NATO adopted 7.62 as the cartridge it was easier to convert the FAL design to this cartridge than it was to convert the EM-2. The other FALs are select fire, while the L1A1 is semi-automatic only. The British FALs are made to Imperial measurements because that's what the design drawings supplied by FN were drawn in, and the UK at the time was still using Imperial measurements, and would continue doing so until around 1970. The L1A1 barrel rifling is cold-formed by hammering over a mandrel.
- BTW, FN never charged Britain a penny for the UK rights to build the FAL, in thanks for what Britain did 1939-45. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.145.115.110 (talk) 08:52, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- Two 1954 Pathe News items, "The Army's New Rifle", here: [1] and "Demonstration Of The New F. N. Rifle" here: [2]— Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.144.50.147 (talk) 09:21, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- .280 SAA prototype FAL here: [3]
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