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Shekhian Mohalla

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I accepted tis in error. The sources whether now or in the earlier version that I accepted do not seem to support the content. See also the related Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Kakkay Abbasi. DGG ( talk ) 23:49, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 00:21, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 00:21, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

• Delete this was created by COI user Kakkay Abbasi. No indication this is a major neighborhood in the current city. The users who created this also edited this information into the Rupnagar article so that needs to be reviewed as well. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 01:26, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
• Delete No independent sources to confirm subject's nobility, relevance and truthfulness of the claim. RationalPuff (talk) 08:50, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
• Do not delete This article is authentic. You may find it in popular literature and this place Shekhian Mohalla still exists. You may see it on google map. At this link.

https://www.google.com/maps/place//data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x39055436a0426b8b:0x5959d40de6dd7ce7?utm_source=mstt_1

I have also listen about this place in youtube documentaries. As well as in popular written literature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Page Representative (talk • contribs) 07:51, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

• Do not delete Shekhian Mohalla is basically most old part of Ropar city. I know personally about it People of this locality were Ropari Sheikh Abbasi who after partition of India in 1947 migrated to Pakistan. Still name of this locality is Shekhian Mohalla you may check it on google map as well as by Waqaf Board Office Ropar, also from District Govt administration of Rupnagar (Ropar). It will a great pity if this article is being deleted which connects the past with present and future. If any additional documentary reference is needed then tell me. I may provide.

Check here that there is recent mentioning of this place about Covid-19. Means this article is about something authentic.

https://www.coronacitywise.com/in/covid/coronavirus-in-Rupnagar-93151

Check this site which is 100 % proving the truthfulness of content provided in article Shekhian Mohalla

www.maria-online.us/travel/article.php?lg=en&q=Rupnagar_district

Type ( https:// ) in beginning of above link as site was not publishing the link with https://

• Do not delete Sir AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) You can see on below link that this place Shekhian Mohalla is part of Rupnagar.In below google map link is location of Shekhian Mohalla on google map. Still this historical place exist. So Sir now your opinion now may change as you said that this place does not exist. While this place exists.

https://www.google.com/maps/place//data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x39055436a0426b8b:0x5959d40de6dd7ce7?utm_source=mstt_1

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Page Representative (talk • contribs) 08:48, 3 January 2021 (UTC) 

How is the neighborhood independently notable from the city? Google map just shows existence but not notability. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:15, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

What is the significance of this place roughly about one hectare that needs a Wikipedia article on? RationalPuff (talk) 15:22, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

• Delete, there is no evidence of the place's independent notability. Might be more productive for the submitter to compile some reliable sources and add this content to the Rupnagar article. If none exist, and this place really is as important as they say it is, perhaps they should spend time getting external coverage of it, which Wikipedia can then reflect. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 16:59, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

• Do not Delete

AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 16:59, 3 January 2021 (UTC) Dears this piece of land is not only one Hector this piece of land was single central hub for All Muslims of this Thesil Rupnagar (formally known Ropar) before 1947.This was single block related to Muslim community before partition around which whole politics of tehsil Ropar moved. There were fifteen thousand votes of this muslim community in Elections of India in 1946 related to this muslim central hub of Tehsil Ropar. Thay you may check on Election 1946 Reoprt of Punjab. So to say it that it was merely one Hector of land is not just. You may prove authenticity from Ambala Gazzattiers 1983-84, 1923-24. All the fact may be mentioned aslo in Cenus Report of India 1941. There are lot of Youtube videos about migration and Muslim politics of Tehsil Ropar in which this place is mentined by the people and there is mentioning and importance of people of this place. I have also placed few links in my previous comments, while there are lot of links to mention here but wikipedia doesn't allow many links. So there are more to describe the authenticity and necessity of this article. This shows that this place is not merely a hector of land. This place has more significance than a piece of land and in future this article may be expanded because this place has also significance in historical pint of view. Other thing is that whole Rupnagar city is composed of four hectors. So why is there full article on Rupnagar city on wikipedia. So don't try to make a hector policy by your own for wikipedia. Deney the things with facts. Don't be personized about the things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Page Representative (talk • contribs) 04:55, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

@Page Representative: Wikipedia has rules on verifiability of its content. If what you are saying is true, you need to provide multiple reliable, independent sources that say the same thing. You can't quote only primary sources like election or census reports, because the conclusions you draw from them are original research. What I suggested above is that if no sources exist, then you should spend time on putting together reliable sources (for example, a newspaper, journal, or university-level textbook. See WP:RS.) Once there is significant coverage in multiple reliable sources, you should not have further issues. If these sources already exist, please locate them and show them to us here. If I am persuaded by them, I will change my vote, and I'm sure the same is true of the others. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 05:19, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

@Kohlrabi Pickle (talk ) Dear Sir I may presume that according to wikipedia policy just commenting with out any knowledge is not enough. In my previous comments I have mentioned multiple sources regarding this article. Dear Sir go for checking the reference books and links articles whose names as I have mentioned above. Check references of this article. After that comment here. Because you know nothing about this article and you are merely commenting. Even you are not getting bother to check books, links, articles which I have mentined. I have mentioned enough reference books names. Kindly first check them go for these books pdf downloads check and then comment. I am expecting you will do it and then leave favourable comments. Thanks in this regard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Page Representative (talk • contribs) 07:18, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

@Page Representative: The burden of proof is yours, unfortunately. I see some oblique references to "popular literature" and "documentaries", but nothing specific. I see references to "Google Maps" and primary sources like election and census reports. Both I and AngusWOOF have explained why those don't help you. Good luck. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 09:07, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) here burden of proof is on everyone who is presenting his opinion. If you have seen google map then it means that this place exists. Second thing is if you have seen Census Report of 1941 it means that content of this article is authentic. It is not fictitious.I have mentioned here more references in my previous comments you may probe into them. So with out doing proper probe to refute or accept does not suit to Wikipedia Community member. Otherwise it looks that some community members only appears online to put comments and they have no time even to probe the matters about that they are putting comments.