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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Bee Gees as an alternative to deletion. There was certainly no consensus to keep, and there was a rough consensus that suitable sources existed to be merged and kept as a possible search term, rather than deleted outright. (non-admin closure) Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 18:01, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Barbara Gibb[edit]

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Not notable, "just" mother of "the Bee Gees", 3 times previously deleted CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:50, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:50, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:55, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:55, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:55, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Notability is not inherited. It seems her only notability is being the mother of several successful pop singers. ExRat (talk) 00:49, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • again, NOTINHERITED is not some magic wand you can wave to remove all coverage that would go towards meeting GNG. There’s an argument to be made that the sources I presented don’t establish GNG but blindly ignoring them is not particularly helpful in determining notability. A person can absolutely inherit notability based on the coverage they have (otherwise why would we have articles on people like Nancy Lincoln?) not inherited just means that people aren’t de facto notable because of their association with notable people, which nobody is suggesting here. Eddie891 Talk Work 00:55, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. While I agree with you that some people become notable in their own right following the notability of a relative (see Jackie Stallone), nearly every article used as a source in this article is titled to the effect of "Barbara Gibb, Bee Gees mother"; notable almost exclusively for being the mother of The Bee Gees. ExRat (talk) 01:10, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So maybe a selective merge to Bee Gees would be an appropriate compromise? I feel her role should be mentioned somewhere (obviously if we merge it wouldn't be the whole article but a sentence or two here and there). I certainly feel this isn't a clear cut case of definitely notable. Eddie891 Talk Work 03:41, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I can't see any issue with having the information merged into The Bee Gees article as it provides sourced information into the background of the brothers. ExRat (talk) 06:02, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Once you get past "she was a singer" and "she was an early manager", there's not much else to say. WWGB (talk) 06:30, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment True, I suppose. But, some information sourced from this article could be included. ExRat (talk) 09:50, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thought bubble. It occurred to me that maybe we can work around this issue by developing an article to be called Gibb family. There are three generations of notable members:
Hugh
Barry, Robin, Maurice, Andy
Steve, Spencer
Such an article would also provide for recognition of other family members like Barbara Gibb and Sammy Gibb. WWGB (talk) 12:17, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.