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Names of German conjunctives

In order to clarify the box above the German section, the names for German conjunctive can be explained thus:

The names Konjunktiv I and Konjunktiv II are the traditional German names for these tenses. “Conditional” (in German: Konditional) is unusual in German. Therefore the confusion. In ordinary speech, moreover, Konjunktiv refers to Konjunktiv II i.e. conditional only, because the Konjunktiv I (subjunctive) is dead as a doornail nowadays. Nobody uses it. Children learn it in school in order to use reported speech correctly, but everybody tries to avoid it for fear of mistakes. Colloquial German uses the indicative for reported speech instead.

The only active phrase with a subjunctive I remember is Sie / Er lebe hoch! = “May she / he live high!” = “Hip hip hooray!” Lang lebe der König! = “Long live the King!” will be heard in history movies, but neither Germany nor Austria nor Switzerland has a king. Gott sei uns gnädig! (“God have mercy on us”) is historical too because those few that are so pious to still exclaim it rather hold their tongue in order not to count as fanatics. Therefore, the German subjunctive is a historical form that appears in older literature, in school children's essays, and in a few set phrases. --Curryfranke (talk) 13:54, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Conjugated tense or... attacking tense??

https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/subjugation

Konjugativ = Subjunctive (English) = attacking tense??

what's that

if I were a gentleman I would kindly say, ... Wikistallion (talk) 09:28, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]