Talk:"Hello, World!" program
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Criticism
Few criticism has been done to this example, but Mark Guzdial, Elliot Soloway said in Teaching the Nintendo Generation to Program that the example is not engaging enough and that while apt for a time of mainly text as main media, is not suited for more current times:
We have used “Hello, World!” for the past 25 years because text was the medium that was easiest to manipulate with the given technology. Today’s technology can manipulate sound, graphics, and video with the same responsiveness and ease. Today’s technology produces the media that “kids these days” are consuming. These same kids can produce their kind of media using today’s technology. In fact, they want to. And they’ll learn programming to do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.29.224.163 (talk) 14:09, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
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Move Proposal (better title: Hello World Program)
The title "Hello, World!" program is an extravagant title choice; and practice shows, no one ever keeps up with this lengthy writing. It would be typographically just as legit to go with Hello World Program instead. Hello World is the name of the program; thus it's the Hello World Program. This adheres to a common standard:
- Twin Towers, not Twin towers,
- Hail Mary, not “Hail Mary”.
The fact that "Hello, World!" is the computer string originally used might matter for non-human interpreters, but this article is intended for the human eye.
Currently the typography of the article is messed up, and typos will keep coming. This is mainly due to this weird choice of title. Especially when people get tiered of the quotations (which are hard to read anyway), the remaining comma leads to full chaos.
Solution: rename everything consistently to Hello World Program; "Hello, World!" program can redirect. —Recompile (talk) 23:54, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per both COMMONNAME (the name was set 40 years ago) and for the usual capitalisation rules. Andy Dingley (talk) 00:17, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose I think the name is OK, since it is the original name. The redirects without symbols already exist and they help us to find this article easily when necessary. --Diego Queiroz (talk) 13:20, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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"Bad apple"
"Bad Apple!! (graphic equivalent to "Hello, World!" for old hardware)"
This makes no sense. Please check what is being linked to there. That whole line should be deleted, or the link updated, clarification added, or something, because as it stands it's just gobbledygook. Comiscuous (talk) 19:55, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Origin before the origin
I think most links and information available on the www, including wikipedia, mentions Brian Kernighan as the one who made it popular. But I also read that this was in use in literature or elsewhere before? How did these two words actually come to be used in that way? It would be nice if wikipedia could explain any build up towards the "hello world" program in general, since that is usually what is done by many people when they learn a new programming language, so this may be useful to know for them as well one day. Specifically I came here to wonder why "world" is greeted and not anything else. Edit: To further clarify, the "hello" part appears trivial to me, but why was "world" chosen and not another word? For example, why not "Hello there!" or something like this. 2A02:8388:1604:F600:3AD5:47FF:FE18:CC7F (talk) 12:11, 11 June 2021 (UTC)