Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of major attacks against Israeli embassies and diplomats with zero fatalities
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The result was procedural close. The article has already been moved. Daniel (talk) 05:10, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
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I am genuinely unsure about this new article, so am flagging it to the broader community for discussion. It is well-sourced, which is good. But it seems a remarkably specific list. Why only embassies and diplomats? Why only attacks with no fatalities? Why only against Israeli targets? I am concerned that the list is both unnecessary and it's very specific inclusion criteria may breach WP:NPOV. I would like to hear more opinions about it's inclusion on Wikipedia. Laplorfill (talk) 16:58, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions. Laplorfill (talk) 16:58, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. Laplorfill (talk) 16:58, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes, it is a remarkably specific list. 1) Why only embassies and diplomats? Attacks on Israeli diplomatic missions by Palestinian and leftist militant groups were extremely common throughout the 20th century and part of the broader Palestinian insurgency against Israel. Some of these attacks had significant geopolitical effects in the Middle East, as well as in the countries where the attacks took place. I have created separate articles for these more significant attacks such as:
- Killings like that of Baruch Cohen, for example, led to significant Mossad side operations where Mossad agents targeted Palestinian militants who had assassinated Israeli diplomats or intelligence agents. Some of these covert operations strained diplomatic ties (Ex: Lillehammer affair).
- 1970 Asunción Israeli Embassy attack, the first notable attack on an Israeli embassy
- Killings like that of Efraim Elrom had significant, long-lasting effects on the diplomatic relations between the host country and Israel, either positively (Ex: Bangkok hostage situation mentioned in the list) or negatively. (Turkey and Israel in this case)
- Killing of Yacov Barsimantov, which was considered a violation of the terms of the July 1981 ceasefire with the PLO. The attempted assassination of Shlomo Argov shortly after would be used as Israel’s justification for its invasion of Lebanon in 1982.
2) Why only attacks with no fatalities? In retrospect, it does seem unnecessarily specific. Should we move the page to "List of major attacks against Israeli embassies and diplomats" and include those with fatalities, hyperlinking the already created articles?
3) Why only against Israeli targets? Like I said, this is about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The insurgents were targeting Israeli diplomats and diplomatic mission, for the most part. A few attacks on American targets already have their own list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_U.S._diplomatic_facilities
Perhaps an article like this would be more ideal for the subject matter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooonswimmer (talk • contribs)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:45, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Move to List of attacks against Israeli embassies and diplomats Limiting this list to only major attacks (whatever that means) with no fatalities is arbitrary and too specific to have a whole article. Broadening it to include all attacks against Israeli embassies and diplomats would make it an acceptable list. Mlb96 (talk) 22:40, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Move to List of attacks against Israeli embassies and diplomats I agree with Mlb96. Shoestringnomad (talk) 16:28, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy keep Article has been moved, and there are no other policy-based concerns. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:36, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:37, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- KEEPas per @laundrypizza03 --Steamboat2020 (talk) 23:00, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
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