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16:02, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

NK/Artsakh terminology

Hey! I saw that you edited some NK/Artsakh articles recently - while many terms are ok in my view to utilize when describing the de facto status of Artsakh, such as "de facto", "de facto independent", "self-proclaimed", "self-declared" and "breakaway" for example, the term "unrecognized" has a non-neutral and negative connotation to it and is not proper to use in my view considering the sensitive nature of the region. AntonSamuel (talk) 12:29, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hello BaxçeyêRes, wanted to thank you for your contributions so far on wikipedia. I know it can be hard to edit in contentious areas, but I hope your wiki journey goes swiftly regardless. Sincerely, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 00:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you immensely, ZaniGiovanni. It is very challenging, but worth it, of course. I may be new and somewhat inexperienced, but I sincerely hope that I can one day do as good of a job as you, my fellow Wikipedian. Have a great day. BaxçeyêReş (talk) 01:50, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate the kind words BaxçeyêReş. You're doing a great job at editing in wikipedia. With best wishes, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 17:54, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian churches/monasteries In Artsakh and Azerbaijan

I saw your edits on some of the monasteries in regards to them being called Caucasian Albanian. Here are a couple of categories that contain a list of all Armenian church/monastery articles in case you wish to further edit on such articles:
* Category:Armenian Apostolic Church in Azerbaijan
* Category:Diocese of Artsakh
* Category:Armenian Apostolic monasteries in Azerbaijan
have a nice day. - Kevo327 (talk) 12:38, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you immensely for this list, Kevo327. I shall get to work shortly. Have an excellent day BaxçeyêReş (talk) 15:43, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the recent ANI

Dear @BaxçeyêReş, hope you're doing good. First of all, thanks again for your efforts on wikipedia. As apparent by the recent Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Nationalistic edits reg. place names in Georgia case, it seems to be more appropriate to limit other language names to the lede or the article itself, and not include it in the infobox. Unfortunately, the now blocked editor, CuriousGolden, set an unhealthy precedent and included all the names and even often times poorly sourced/unsourced former population infos (many in the lede, which should've been in history sections) in a lot of Armenian villages as shown by your mentioned map in the ANI case (and their contributions history). And as a result, other editors like you, including me at times, thought it was "the way to go".

Well, turns out it isn't. And limitation to the lede of other language names (especially previous ones, and given they're notable like properly sourced info about former majority population/etc), seems to be the consensus, even agreed by the admin. I saw other editors involved with AA articles like @KhndzorUtogh editing some of the villages (haven't checked all the changes, will probably have time tomorrow), and I'm gonna also ping another editor who was involved with Arm/Az villages, @AntonSamuel: to see what they think of the recent ANI case as well.

Thanks for the provided map btw, I'll eventually check the villages and correct infoboxes / see if potential POV edits are properly cited, etc (as I just can't guess with CuriousGolden). Hope at least now, we have some consensus, from an admin as well, about infobox names and what is the appropriate way to approach them. Best regards, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 23:14, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @ZaniGiovanni, thank you for stopping by; I can only reflect your kind words back to you. I'm extremely glad to have finally reached not only consensus, but also some sort of precedent, and I will gladly work together with you, the users you mentioned, and other ones in seeking consistency in articles on the South Caucasus. Have an excellent day :) Sincerely, BaxçeyêReş (talk) 18:17, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Naming of places

Hello. I saw your edits on place names of the Caucasus region. Currently, the articles Ganja, Azerbaijan and Nakhchivan (city) mentions the naming used by basically every single person who've set foot in the city in the heading section. But in Spitak article, for example, the older Turkish naming is only squashed up the etymology section. Isn't this, in all meaning, against neutrality? I see you as a neutral user and hope you will make changes in this regard. Thank you. 185.81.80.240 (talk) 00:53, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) WP:OTHER. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 02:16, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there! Thank you greatly for recognizing me as a neutral user instead of accusing me of attending to one side as many of my fellow Wikipedians have done before. Aside from your concern being a case of WP:OTHER as ZaniGiovanni pointed out, the Armenian (or Persian or Russian) names of Ganja and Nakhchivan are commonly mentioned outside of Wikipedia as these settlements have had a significant historical Armenian population. Azerbaijani villages in Armenia, like Aghitu or Nor Astghaberd feature their names in the lede (and falsely, in the infobox). However, the name Hammamlu remains relative obscure in the context of Spitak, and because of a dearth of evidence of an Azerbaijani population, it wouldn't make much sense to feature the name anywhere but in the History section. I hope this is understandable to you. You could alternatively discuss your concerns on the respective talk pages, should they be this important to you! Have a great day. BaxçeyêReş (talk) 18:23, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your response. 185.81.83.17 (talk) 18:06, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]