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No indication of notability; they do not appear to have won any major tournaments. ... discospinster _talk 15:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. ... discospinster _talk 15:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. 2A01:4C8:A1:F08E:69AA:AD25:80F8:B9C5 (talk) 13:16, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

S8UL Esports is arguably India's biggest and most popular eSports organization. It was one of the first big Esports organization that got very popular. It's fanbase is the biggest in Indian eSports scenario.

The combined subscribers count (on YouTube) of its content-creators is far more than any other eSports organization in the country, with several of them having a subscriber count of more than a million.

Team 8-Bit, of the two founding members of the S8UL, is the first Indian team to win a international tournament.

Team SouL too has competed in several international tournaments.

As for team S8UL, the game PUBG Mobile was banned for the period September 2020-July 2021 and then was relaunched back as a different game (Battlegrounds Mobile India), so there hasn't been any official tournament, not domestic neither international, for the game. Aaditya.abh (talk) 16:39, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

None of that has any real bearing on notability in the Wikipedia sense. You need to explain how they meet the WP:GNG - that's the general standard as to if something should have its own article. Sergecross73 msg me 13:28, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments supporting notability:

"Significant Coverage:" The page includes a wide range of information, such as hitsory as to formation, it's current eSports division, former Division, it's content creation information as this organisation is very prominent in content creation. The page also includes information for its management.

"Reliable Sources:" The sources provided on the page are reliable. All of the sources provided are reputed websites providing Esports and wide variety of general news.

"Independent of the subject:" Every piece of information seen on page are independent of the subject matter, i.e., S8UL Esports. No info on the page includes anything advertised by or affiliated to s8ul eSports.

"Presumed:" Everything provided here is information not presumed facts. Also, for each section of the page, there is not much detailed information available to have it's own separate page.

Aaditya.abh (talk) 13:41, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing, the india professional eSports organization, Stalwart Esports, which is a much smaller and lesser-known, and also lesser successful than S8UL, still that organization has a notable page on Wikipedia.
S8UL is a very big thing in India. This organization is credited with practically making Esports popular in the country.

Aaditya.abh (talk) 13:46, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, you'll have to be more specific than that with the sourcing. A five second glance is all it takes to counter the argument that all the sources are reliable. "Call of Duty Wiki" is absolutely not a reliable source per WP:USERG. I'm going to do my own research and wait for some more experienced editors to weigh in before I do. I'm not particularly convinced yet. I've never heard of any of these sources... Sergecross73 msg me 15:27, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So, against Liqupedia wiki of the respective games, better - more reliable sources are needed? On it.

Aaditya.abh (talk) 15:44, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Aaditya.abh, Hey Aaditya, Wikipedia doesn't run on popularity. It required secondary reliable sources and, At this point all the references in the article aren't Reliable at all. I Don't think this page at this version is eligible for a wikipedia article. Moreover, you seem to have a COI with S8ul and need to disclose the COI with S8UL on your page, go through the relevant WP Policies. Warm Regards---Abhay Esports Talk To Me 15:54, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

1. I was providing reliable citations/sources on the page as you sent this message.

2. I don't have any COI with S8UL. I was just scrolling through different eSports related pages on Wikipedia and then I discovered that there wasn't any Esports page of S8UL.

I have interests in Esports and tech, and that is probably the reason I may sound so passionate.

Aaditya.abh (talk) 16:01, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]