Talk:Glyphosate

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This stuff is so sketchy. How much damage can Monsanto do before we question it's right to exist? TitaniumDreads 07:46, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Removed the statement about 'endocrine disruption' and provided a link to the health concerns section of the Roundup article (it provides much more information). --203.206.52.93 8 July 2005 01:10 (UTC)

Endocrine disruptor?

The endocrine disruption topic isn't one that should have been removed from this article, however, it is still an unresolved issue. Invitro studies have shown glyphosate to cause abnormal steroid production in cell lines, but whole organism studies have thus far failed to find evidence of endocrine disruption. However, since endocrine disruption can happen by so many pathways, it may not be surprising to understand that if there was an abnormal affect, it may be difficult to detect over an entire organism. On the other hand, in-vitro studies often exaggerate circumstances to the point where an abnormal affect can be found that wouldn't actually exist in an actual organism. The topic requires more research before glyphosate can be said to be definately an endocrine distuptor, or definately not. However, the information about the research should remain, because it is still important for people to know that it is being studied.

For now, the information should stay, and because it is a matter of dispute (not here on wikipedia, but in the scientific community at large), make sure that all your claims on the matter are cited, to prevent this from turning into an edit war. Thanks!! Phidauex 14:59, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"peer reviewed" citation is not appropriate description

Under the External Links section of this entry, the "Peer-reviewed, up-to-date info on the toxicology of glyphosate" is not an accurate description -- although it may be the author's description (Ms. Cox). The item linked to this is actually a propaganda item authored by an employee of NCAP -- NCAP is the Northwest Coalition for Alternatives to Pesticides, an anti-pesticide organization. The item itself was published in the Journal of Pesticide Reform, which is NOT a peer-reviewed publication, but a "journal" describing the positions of the NCAP organization. The JPR is not abstracted by any scientific abstracting service, include Chemical Abstracts, CABA, PUBMED, etc. Scientific libraries do not recognize this as a scientific publication. To call this information in this format "peer-reviewed" is incorrect and blatantly false, as no "peers" have reviewed and agreed with Ms. Cox interpretation of this assortment of studies.

I suggest that this linked item be re-evaluated for its suitability for this Wikipedia entry. If "the other side" needs to be represented, include a link to the NCAP website, so the reader knows the source of the material, just as the reader of the US EPA and EU reviews knows the source. NCAP website: http://www.pesticide.org/

Moved lines on toxicity out of first paragraph

I rearranged the environmental section, by moving the comments about toxicity (EPA class, etc) to the section on fauna toxicity.The first paragraph has been written about glyphosate's herbicidal effects on plants (presumably, plants that were not intended for destruction upon spraying). Looking at the entry on EPA toxicity classes, it seems that their definition of toxicity has to do with poisoning people.