User talk:Chairboy

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Welcome to my user talk page! Please sign your messages with "~~~~" and use ":" indenting on replies for clarity. Please leave a note as to where you will be looking for responses (eg, whether you have bookmarked this page or expect responses on your own talk page). Best regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 20:11, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

I just got here by clicking your talk then 'edit this page' simple! 8-)--Light current 01:43, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

So I should wait until completed and use preview verses publish?

I'm not trying to be a smart well ya know. I'm Just a little unfamiliar with how the editing works here. It took me quite a bit to figure out how to message you back. Your input would be greatly appreciated. I am an avid user of the wiki and I dont want to put junk out there so I'm sorry if it seemed that way

Hallefant

Thanks for speedying Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Hallefant, but I was going to.

Vandalism

Hi you posted a vandalism note on User talk:206.139.211.21 on the 18th, please look at their current contributions Special:Contributions&target=206.139.211.21.

FireFox RFA

Chairboy

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Thanks for your support on my request for adminship.

The final outcome was (96/2/0), so I am now an administrator. If you ever have any queries about my actions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Again, thanks!

FireFox 18:22, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the reference

Thanks for pointing out Category:Wikipedians who are pilots!

Quarl

Hi, I noticed you on Quarl's talk page. Although he's been reluctant for adminship I nominated him anyways... and I'm awaiting for his response... but feel free to vote and hopefully he'll accept Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Quarl .

~ Cheers —This user has left wikipedia 19:59 2006-02-01

Thank-you

The count is in, and now I join the crew who wield the mops and pails. Thanks for your support! I pledge to serve both you and Jimbo Wales. If you have anything you need, then please don't think to hesitate. For I am the very model of a grateful admin designate! ♫Bucketsofg✐♪

User:Ageo020 user page.

About my page in which i made an admin claim, I'm sorry. I just copied that section from another user's page. I line checked the code but i think i may have overseen this. Really sorry if this caused any trouble. Thanks User:Ageo020

Headline text

Phossy

Whats wrong with it?

How

Why did you delete my gobbledigook page? How did you delete it and how did you know it existed? I created it as a test 2 seconds before you deleted it.

Thanks

Please help me

Chairboy this is Penetrating Fluid, I saw your comment on my discussion page. I feel very strongly that I am being injustly censored soley because one administrator didn't know what penetrating fluid is and imagined it to be some kind of offensive term. Please read the discussion here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Samsara#User:Penetrating_Fluid and if you feel I am wrong then I shall desist from further action.

RE DRV

Beautiful languages

Beautiful languages on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Beautiful languages. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ihcoyc (talk • contribs) .

Smiley Award

Feel free to place this award on your user page, as a token of appreciation for your contributions. If you're willing to help spread the good cheer to others, please see the project page for the Random Smiley Award at: User:Pedia-I/SmileyAward

Thanks

Thank you for voting on my administrator tryout.--Rat235478683--

the billy wright ( american poet) article keeps getting deleted...

why was the Billy Wright article deleted? the notability page describes that persons who have been also NON self-published then are notable and worthy of an encycolpedia article. he has appeared in numerous poetry and literary magazines and has authored a few books...

Thank you for your support

Thank you for your support in the RfA on my behalf. It is an honor to have received your expression of confidence. To be chosen as an administrator requires a high level of confidence by a broad section of the community. Although I received a great deal of support, at this time I do not hold the level of confidence required, and the RfA did not pass. It is my wish that I will continue to deserve your confidence. Sincerely, --BostonMA ^talk 22:22, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Yogani Article Deletion

Hi Chairboy,

Just wondering why you went ahead and deleted my article after I had contested it and was writing an extremely detailed explanation of why the article had been previously deleted and why it should have a home on Wikipedia. Please let me know. Thanks and have a great day. Mdyogi 19:26, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Howdy! Please see WP:CSD General criteria, article 4. The community had decided to delete it via the deletion process and it had been removed. Regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 19:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Chairboy,

I'm going to copy the explanation here that I had written after contesting the deletion. I hope it helps to clear things up a bit:

I realize this article has been deleted before. What had happened was that the article had been originally deleted due to Yogani writing the article himself, without realizing that it was against the rules. Following the deletion of that article, I took it upon myself to create a new article on the subject which lasted until a few weeks ago, when it was deleted based on the discussion of the original article. What I'm getting at here is that I believe there has been a mix up leading to the deletion of the recent article, which I was the author of. It is understandable that the article would be deleted due to the author being the subject, but why would subsequent articles written by others be deleted automatically on the same grounds? By going back and reading the discussion surrounding the article, you can clearly see that this is the case. If for some reason the article was deleted for "notability" reasons, I can offer the following on the subject.

Yogani is the author of the Advanced Yoga Practices (AYP) websites and corresponding books. The free instructional websites of Advanced Yoga Practices have received over 100K unique visitors over the past three years (verifiable). The six books he has written so far are selling consistently (and often significantly) within the 100K rank level on Amazon in the USA, Canada and Europe (http://www.aypsite.com/books), and are in the process of being published in India as well. Yogani was interviewed on national radio in November and December (archived recordings and schedule can be found at http://www.aypsite.com/audio) and is scheduled for additional national radio appearances in January and beyond. I would hope that a subject who is currently redefining the way that spiritual practices are taught and utilized is extremely notable, if only for this reason alone. This is the main focus of the article, as it is what makes the subject stand apart from the many others in this field.

On the topic of advertisement, there is only one link to the website (in the links section), which would be certainly relevant to the article as it is the location of the subject's main body of work. Also, the website is 100% free, so there really isn't much to be gained from any kind of advertisement. If you'd like, I can create a list of many spiritual teachers with articles on Wikipedia containing a link to their website.

I hope we can get this sorted out, as this article should certainly have a home on Wikipedia. Thank you for your time and have a great day. Mdyogi 20:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for restoring the article and for your note in the discussion. Your time and help is greatly appreciated. Best wishes and Namaste.  :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mdyogi (talk • contribs) 23:41, 7 January 2007 (UTC).

My Request for Adminship

Thank you for your support in my my RfA, which passed with a tally of 117/0/1. I hope that my conduct as an admin lives up to the somewhat flattering confidence the community has shown in me. Oh, as you neglected to include a storm joke you may wish to view my favourite which is viewable at tinyurl dot com slash ygpje9 ;) Please don't hesitate to leave a message on my talk page should you need help or want to discuss something with me. And I'd like to give you an apology too: One of my first admin acts was to undo one of yours at Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation, you G12'ed it and I restored as the source site is in the PD. Seeing as we were both on IRC at the time, I should have poked you first, but oh well.--Nilfanion (talk) 22:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Axxo

I noticed the page of axxo being deleted and protected from recreation.I think I already know but i just want to make sure,what was the article about?192.30.202.20 22:58, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Some guy who rips DVDs. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 23:02, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, you said on my talk page:

I saw that you asked why the AXXo talk page was deleted. It is standard practice to delete talk pages to articles that don't exist. The article has been deleted and salted. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 23:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

There is at least some importance to this topic though, since people do make searches and post inquiries into the AXXo talk page. When will there be a process for reinstatement, since the link on the aXXo page gives me no information to appeal an article post deletion.--Chrisdab 01:32, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Goodness no, the person does not appear to meet any feasible definition of Wikipedia's notability clause. Regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 02:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Let me modify that slightly, there's deletion review, though I can say with utmost confidence that the article will remain deleted. When the gentleman is featured on CNN, perhaps it might be revisited, but realistically... no, ain't gonna happen. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 02:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

You know this guy is pretty knotable since most of his dvd rips come before the films are realeased on dvd and they are are perfect quality.How does he do it, Is he some insider who gets advanced copies of films and then distributes them?Rodrigue 17:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Elves? - CHAIRBOY (☎) 21:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't quite understand what your responce is.what do you mean when you say "elves"?Rodrigue 17:15, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, you asked how he gets the advanced copies, and I honestly can't tell you. Perhaps from magical elves? I strongly encourage you to review the notability link I provided above, if you can make a good case for this gent (or lady) meeting it, I can unsalt the article, but it seems rather unlikely. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 17:53, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

It was stated before on the article's talk page, before that was deleted too, that if a good article was written on this person, that it would be used as the article. It was also stated on that talk page that the reason the page was deleted and locked was that the previous article there was poorly written. Now although you dont feel this person is notable and I can agree with your points, it should also be taken into consideration that there are forums and websites dedicated to this person. If a well written article was written on this person, would it then allow the article to be created? --Chrisdab 20:37, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

My RFA

Hey, thanks so much for supporting my recent RFA. A number of editors considered that I wasn't ready for the mop yet and unfortunately the RFA did not succeed (69/26/11). There are a number of areas which I will be working on (including changing my username) in the next few months in order to allay the fears of those who opposed my election to administrator.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you sincerely for your support over the past week. I've been blown away by the level of interest taken in my RFA and appreciate the time and energy dedicated by all the editors who have contributed to it, support, oppose and neutral alike. I hope to bump into you again soon and look forward to serving you and Wikipedia in any way I can. Cheers! The Rambling Man 19:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC) (the non-admin, formerly known as Budgiekiller)

SETI

Reverting evidence that SETI may wish to start looking closer to home first. What a great edit summary! Thanks for making my day brighter! ✤ JonHarder ^talk 23:01, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:VPP and Hruodlandus

Just FYI: not having seen you post at WP:VPP recently, I don't know whether you saw my comments/links there in your thread on username blocks, about the block of Hruodlandus Brittannici limitis praefectus (the Latin name of the historical Roland), now lifted by the blocking admin. -- Ben 15:14, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! - CHAIRBOY (☎) 15:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

"Not-censored" box

Not meaning to "stalk" but rather to learn by example from your contribs, I saw your recent exchange on an article talk page where there'd been repeated requests to censor text, pictures, or the entire article. Thinking, perhaps naively, that one clear statement up front might help reduce the repetition, I came up with the following box, and added it at the top of that talk page. If you'd find it helpful, please use or adapt wherever you deem suitable. -- Ben 17:43, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Before complaining about article content, please read: Wikipedia is not censored.

An interesting idea. Let's see how it's received by others. Regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 17:50, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I did mention it at the project talk page. So far no-one's complained, though the week is young.

I have now turned the above box into Template:Notcensored.

Also, someone else had created a longer block of text, with a stop-sign, that specifically fits (and is on) the talk pages of articles with images of nudity or sexual anatomy. I've adapted this into Template:Notcensored2, with two minor changes from the original text: 1) removed a blank line from top, 2) used BASEPAGENAME to provide the article name automagically, so that doesn't have to be typed in every time.

It's probably better to "subst" these -- {{subst:notcensored}} or {{subst:notcensored2}} -- rather than make the poor computers transclude them each load. That also reduces the risk of being affected by template vandalism.

But would you please protect these two templates anyway? -- Ben 11:03, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

If they aren't transcluded onto the main page, they don't need to be protected, this _is_ a wiki after all, heh. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 13:30, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk:India - re

FYI. Thanks. Sarvagnya 18:06, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

congratulazioni

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You have won the "Name Giano's Bird Competiton", and are herby awarded a Spumoni of your own. Giano 17:08, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Yay! - CHAIRBOY (☎) 17:16, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

So what are you going to name yours? Paul August ☎ 20:44, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, an interesting quandary. These animated birds eat twice their weight in controversy every day I hear, so I'll have to wait and see. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 21:28, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Well I had been thinking of Woody for mine or Max, I had a toucan called Max when I was little - but he was a little vicious, so how about Woody afeter Woody the Woodpecker. Giano 23:28, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Woody it is! There may be those who would protest that a hummingbird's diet precludes the types of grubs a woodpecker enjoys, but that would be a failure of imagination on their part. Thanks! - CHAIRBOY (☎) 23:34, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Glad to help, Woody always sounds cute, while poor old Max had that great big frightening mouth. Be careful though they breed very fast. Giano 23:40, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Karmafist

Chairboy, I don't think that Karmafist's devotion to this project can be denied, right up to his demise. I don't think anyone ever tried to engage in debate with him and/or his supporters. So Wikipedia chugged right along without making any of the changes recommended by Karmafist, when in fact considering these changes could have been beneficial to the encyclopedia. Did we follow the rules in blocking him? Yeah. But I think it was detrimental to the project. Juppiter 01:19, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

How would you characterize his fleet of sock puppets? BTW, thank you for your thoughtful reply. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 01:26, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

It was irresponsible, but I think that he was absolutely pushed into a corner. In addition, these sock puppets were created to block the ascension of user:Carnildo to adminship, which has been more harmful than anything Karmafist ever did. As a matter of fact, Karmafist made me aware of the sockpuppets before the Wikipedia community discovered them, and I was more offended by the witchhunt against the anti-Carnildo crowd that ultimately uncovered the socks than I was by the existence of the socks. It was good that the socks were uncovered, but that every single oppose vote in Carnildo's most recent RFA was inspected with such scrutiny was a travesty to me. Juppiter 03:28, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Adam4Adam

It appears you deleted the article Adam4Adam. The article had verifiable references that established notability. Adam4Adam has been discussed in newspapers across the United States and, given the opportnity, I can produce an avalanche of evidence of this. I had nothing to do with previous versions of the article; I didn't even know they existed until yesterday. There was a hold on the speedy delete and I didn't get a chance to respond. Put the article back and allow me the advocate for the article per Wikipedia policy. I am an earnest and guideline-abiding Wikipedia contributor and I don't appreciate this abuse of authority. House of Scandal 15:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

First, there is no 'hold' on deletion. If someone puts a {{hangon}} template somewhere, it's a tag to draw someones attention to the talk page where they make an argument for why it shouldn't be deleted. If you couldn't be bothered to do that as you imply above, then the use of the template is meaningless. Second, I would have gladly undeleted the article at your first request, and was ready to do so (as I have any number of other times when people have asked), but then I read your immediate accusation of "abuse of authority". That's uncalled for, and while you're welcome to your opinion, I now invite you to find another admin to restore it for you. Like everyone else, I'm a volunteer here, and I'm under no obligation to put up with abuse. I suggest you reconsider how you interact with people on the project going forwards. Assume Good Faith is a vital foundation of Wikipedia, and you've chosen to ignore it. I don't know why you felt your first reaction must immediately be hostile, but it was unwarranted, inappropriate, and out of line for working here. I hope you won't mistake my choice of inaction as another "abuse of authority", but I can't control your perceptions. I can only ask you to use more consideration when speaking to fellow editors in the future. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 17:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

BTW, I checked it out again, and I'd like to clear up a misconception. I didn't speedy-delete it because of unverifiable content of because it was a repost, please note that I provided the following delete explanation: "WP:CSD Articles, subsection 7 - No assertion of notability is made by this person, music group, or organization" It fails to meet WP:WEB, and Wikipedia is not a web directory. Feel free to have a 2nd admin review this for you or bring it to WP:DRV. Regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 17:34, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

There was a "hangon" which you choose to ignore. You not liking my tone is no exuse for you abusing your power, covering up your errors, or whatever. You wrongly deleted the article and you have violated policy. We're not done. House of Scandal 17:37, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey all, for some reason I have Chairboy's talk on my watch list, and I noticed this and I thought I'd chime in. While it is true that it might have been "nice" if Chairboy waited a little longer for the explanation from you, HouseOfScandal, there isn't, in fact, any reason why it is necessary to wait if the article clearly satisfies the criteria for speedy deletion, and I agree with Chairboy's assessment that it doesn't meet WP:WEB. If, however, this was the first or second deletion of the article I might be inclined to undelete it myself and send it to AfD. However, this is the sixth deletion of the article (one of which was reversed), and the ground was actually salted for a couple months, so it was clearly understood that it shouldn't be recreated. Your behaviour doesn't add to my desire to undelete either, HouseOfScandal. So if you want a second admin opinion, I give you one: Keep it deleted. _└ ^OzLawyer / _talk ^┐ 18:06, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I didn't even know about previous version of the article. The article had WP:V and WP:N. Even spammy, unWikified crap goes to AfD. To just press a button an eliminate a substantial article that someone had obviously created in good faith is very, very wrong. It was undeleted yesterday because, as the admin stated, it was undeleted in error without looking at it. What is the "hangon" template for if it can just be ignored? No different that either of you, I am a volunteer here. I work very hard fighting vandalism, creating and editing articles, and improving Wikipedia. If in my place, How would you like it? House of Scandal 18:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)-

From the {{hangon}} template itself: "Note that this request is not binding, and the page may still be deleted if the page unquestionably meets the speedy deletion criteria, or if the promised explanation is not provided very soon." I understand your frustration, but casually ascribing malice to things you disagree with isn't a good way to get things done. If you still disagree with the speedy delete criteria used, I encourage you to use deletion review to pursue this. If you feel my actions have been in any way improper (which your text suggests), I encourage you to request external review at either WP:AN, WP:AN/I or via the request for comment procedure. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 19:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Anyway you look at it, Chairboy, your decision was made without checking to see if it truly failed WP:WEB. I realize you're as busy as the rest of us, but it is clearly a notable site. The New York Times wrote an article about it a few months ago, after a site user was murdered through an assignation arranged there. A truly interestingWiki article could be written about it. I, for one, would like to see the article, evaluate it, and perhaps improve it. Jeffpw 22:58, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate your feedback, but your claim that I made no effort to see if it failed WP:WEB is inaccurate. I see that you're a member of "Category:Wikipedians against notability", and while you're entitled to your own opinion, I'd ask that you keep in mind that the notability policies are still in force, and if you'd like to change them, a better place for that would be via WP:VPP instead of my talk page. BTW, Alexa ranks it at over 7,000, and the articles cited appeared to mention it only in passing. If it's a notable site, then DRV will reflect this. Have faith in the process. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 23:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

• You in no position to lecture me or anyone on civiliity or Wikipedia guidelines. There is more to civility than avoiding cusswords, sir. Being an admin doesn't make you any smarter or more worthy of courtesy than a brilliant contributor. HoS has something like 40 or 50 articles on DYK in months and the disrespect you have shown him, and by extention the whole Wikipedida community, is unworthy of your mop and keys. If you had "faith for the process" you would have proposed that article for deletion. The actions for which you seem so proud are shameful. Shaundakulbara 23:40, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Shaundakulbara, those kind of messages aren't helpful. As Chairboy said to me above, have faith in the process. I am confident the article will pass DRV. Let's relax a bit for the moment. Jeffpw 23:46, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

User:PopeofPeru

Regarding this edit, c'mon. What are your goals vis a vis Wikipedia? Please have some consideration for the folks working on it with you, and refrain from this type of attack. We're all in this together, and comments like that do nothing to further the goals of the project. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 16:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I realized it needed a bit of qualification and so I added a thing to it to further explain my rational... And while you are right, that comments like that do nothing to further wikipedia, neither does deleting user's user pages without asking them or offering to bring it back if they didn't want it to be deleted. Like I said in my additions to that comment, plenty of wikipedia admins have barnstars on their pages, to me at least, this is just like that, and does not qualify to be called "myspace material". -- itistoday (Talk) 16:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

User:GymLeader_Dalton

I turned this guy over to an admin. He should be blocked soon. Thanks for your help. :) Wahkeenah 17:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Axxo page deletion

I would like to know why did you delete the Axxo wikipedia page. I personally think you blatantly violated wikipedia policies and without proper explanation I'll have to report this.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.127.122.248 (talk • contribs)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! Please sign your messages with ~~~~. The article you ask about was deleted for the reason outlined in the deletion reason. Specifically, it met the speedy delete criteria 7, no assertion of notability. If you feel the article was deleted in error, I encourage you to make use of the deletion review process. Regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 23:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Why remove Puppets from deletion?

Their indefenetly banned, their one-time puppets used only for vandalism, whats the point of keeping their pages?