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Hi, let's summarize and formalize criteria for adding languages into "Languages" section of "ethnic group" template of this article. What are these criteria? Manyareasexpert (talk) 08:50, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- So the proposal is. As the article is about ethnic group, and the template is about ethnic group, the "Languages" section of "ethnic group" template should contain ethnic group's languages in ethnic sense, i.e languages as an ethnic property of an ethnic group. Applied to this article, the section should contain Ukrainian's languages as described in ethnology sources describing Ukrainians and their languages. Not the languages of citizens of Ukraine, not Ukrainian's mother languages or languages they use. Manyareasexpert (talk) 13:24, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Changes made. Manyareasexpert (talk) 18:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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The whole premise of this page is dubious
This page suggests a unity between the nationality and ethnicity of Ukrainians, and this is nonsense. What about the Tatars? Can we not consider ethnic Hungarians or Russians to be Ukrainian if they are committed to living in Ukraine? http://2001.ukrcensus.gov.ua/eng/results/general/nationality/ also mentions Belarussians, Moldavians, Poles, Jews, Armenians, Gypsies and others, and says "the representatives of more than 130 nationalities and ethnic groups live on the territory of the country." The idea that they are not Ukrainians is dangerous.Gwaka Lumpa (talk) 09:55, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note the difference between citizenship, and nationality/ethnicity - that there is a Ukrainian nation is beyond dispute. Ukraine is not a nation-state, however, in that there is a large number of ethnic Russians in the eastern part of the country, and to a much lesser extent the other nationalities you mentioned. Virtually all those living in the country of Ukraine are Ukrainian citizens, however. There is nothing "dangerous" about this article [with the exception of unreferenced material], and Wiki is not the place to 'change great wrongs' anyway. 50.111.34.214 (talk) 22:45, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
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