Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bryan Kreutz

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 03:26, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bryan Kreutz

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WP:NOTABILITY; Sources are all databases, self-created pages, and pages from his employers. Google search brings up same kind of sources, nothing denoting notability. Nat Gertler (talk) 18:38, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTABILITY; An additional News category Press release source has been found to verify the Validity and notability of this Article to remain on wikipedia. See http://www.pr.com/press-release/204624 Bryankreutz 77 (talk) 23:28, 24 May 2011 (UTC)User talk:Bryankreutz 77) 23:27, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A press release is generally not considered to denote notability. --Nat Gertler (talk) 02:54, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTABILITY; Two additional references added one is a newspaper article on Bryan Kreutz Childhood in St.Louis, the second is on the existence of Rescued Nation TV. Contesting Deletion for Page Bryan Kreutz I highly recommend this page be kept. I came on here to find information on the St.Louis born Directors and Producers, this page has been useful. Cleanup it needs, deletion it doesn't. There have been multiple news article references supporting the person and the St.Louis event inspired TV show Rescued Nation that he directs/produces/writes for. Bryankreutz 77 (talk) 23:28, 24 May 2011 (UTC)User talk:Bryankreutz 77) 10:45, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unless you're claiming that it was notable that Kreutz had a bicycle decades ago, the mere mention of his name in an article doesn't contribute to significant notability. The existence of Rescued Nation TV is not in question, but even if the show was notable, that does not make Kretuz notable; notability is not inherited. As for referring to Kreutz as "he", either you are Bryan Kreutz, born in 1977, in which case the proper term is "I" and you should admit that your work on this is promotional; or you're not him, in which case you should review the Wikipedia policy about using someone's real name as your user name, as you're in violation of it. --Nat Gertler (talk) 16:05, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTABILITY; Page has been written by another wikipedia user. Here is another additional reference added to the article titled "KJSL" at Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia with Bryan Kreutz referenced numerous times as a producer. The list of verifiable, substantive sources, and notable reference material has been contributed by multiple users to the page per the original discussion request. Unless a theme of bias is now present for deletion there is no cause for deletion to the article or references made thereunto. Bryankreutz 77 (talk) 13:24, 26 May 2011 (UTC)User talk:Bryankreutz 77) 10:45, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do not use articles from Wikipedia or from websites that mirror its content as sources. You have been unable to provide reliable sources indicating your notability. --Nat Gertler (talk) 19:00, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 19:15, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 19:15, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 19:15, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTABILITY;This article is not an autobiography it was written by me Momtvproducer and has another reliable reference in the acceptable category for graduate at his College broadcast center. (see reference 1 on the Bryan Kreutz article) For example the wikipedia article page titled "Eric Kripke" has only 3 references 1 is an alumni reference website which is the same as Bryan Kreutz's reference to his alumni at Broadcast Center college. Eric Kripke has only one external link which is identical to the imdb.com link for Bryan Kreutz. The article has sufficient references in comparison to other articles in the same Director/Producer/Writer category of articles. User:Momtvproducer (talk) 10:15, 28 May 2011 (UTC) — Momtvproducer (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Eric Kripke satisfied a range of notability criteria at WP:FILMMAKER which there is no evidence that Kreutz approaches. --Nat Gertler (talk) 15:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Sources are as follows: Self published sources, Primary source interview, Wikipedia page, Social website bio, and a press release. None of the sources are reliable sources. Seems like a self-published auto biography.--v/r - T P 15:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This article has been nominated for rescue. Momtvproducer (talk) 14:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: little-to-no evidence of independent sourcing. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk^(P) 17:04, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:TOOSOON. Non-notable at this point in his career; the only sources found are self-provided (e.g. IMDB). The article's claims seem unrealistic and overblown; for example he lists himself as a "writer" for Revolution 618 even though it is a talk show. There is even a link at the bottom of the page for Bryan Kreutz! Nothing about his career was found at Google News Archive - just the unrelated story about an incident in his childhood. I note there is a Wikipedia article for the TV program Revolution 618, but in a quick glance I seriously doubt if that program is notable either. It seems to have aired only on local cable. Somebody might want to take a look at that as well. --MelanieN (talk) 22:33, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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