Talk:Comparison of webmail providers

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Conversation threading

I added Conversation threading. For many people, it is a central feature. I also removed the three seperate claims (three different services!) claiming that only they provide threaded conversations. Brinerustle (talk) 07:30, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Web interface in English

The lead section currently requires that the list is limited to providers who offer web interface in English. Which in my view is a valid point, because (1) this is en-wiki, and (2) in a lot of countries there exist email providers who only offer local interface and this is certainly not an article to list them all, duplicating sites like this one.

Consequently, today I removed[1] a handful of email providers who have no offer for an English-speaking user and those who only cater for their existing customers (like Orange France offering email only to their broadband customers). This was reverted by Nemo Bis [2] with a somewhat vague explanation that Wikipedia is an international project. Well, sure it is, but this does not mean we have to stick everything in here, and it is perfectly normal that articles have specific criteria in order to keep them manageable and focused. Thank you to share your thoughts. — kashmīrī ^TALK 17:52, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing it out. I think that criterion should be removed, unless it's made to be workable in a way consistent with the five pillars.

It's not clear what sources you used to determine that those services do not have an English-language interface. OVH most definitely offers an interface in English, for instance. Although this is trivial to verify (OVH uses Roundcube), I would have to resort to original research, which is in my opinion inappropriate. It's rare for third party sources to focus on such details when they are obvious, so it's unclear how such information could be supported by reliable sources.

I agree that the inclusion criteria for this comparison are difficult to determine, but the volume of traffic as measured by Google (or other big mail relays for which any report can be found) seems a rather solid source to me, and a few rows you removed included such a source. I suggest to focus on removing unsourced information (or, even better, finding good sources where it's easy to do so). Nemo 18:16, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nemo bis: OVH is no more an email provider than any single web hosting company from this, this or this list. All or almost all of them offer some sort of email hosting with a webmail interface. What's worse: these lists only include providers who offer English interface; if other languages are considered, then our article will grow by thousand more entries.

Google's volume of traffic is a poor proxy of notability (see WP:GNUM). For Wikipedia, we must define and apply criteria that reflect the subject's notability and relevance. My instant proposal is to list only providers who (1) offer English interface, and (2) where email hosting is an important part of the offer; not just one of many features that the hosting customer can activate on the web server if they so fancy. This way we are likely to limit this list article to 20–30 entries, which will then indeed have an informational value for the reader. — kashmīrī ^TALK 20:43, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Missing

I noticed that Roundcube, SquirrelMail, Mailpile and Internet Messaging Program are missing from this list. Catfurball (talk) 19:35, 12 May 2021 (UTC) Also Android | iOS App.[reply]

Gandi

I don't think Gandi should be in this list. Email services at Gandi are limited to those who have a (paid) account for domain name registration and/or web hosting. Many web hosting providers include email, so that should not qualify for this list. -- HLachman (talk) 06:40, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure protonmail supports IMAP/SMTP

Based on the citation ( https://protonmail.com/bridge/ ) for Protonmail supporting SMTP and IMAP, it actually supports a program that is downloaded to the computer, and that bridges to IMAP/SMTP. (Source code seems to be here: https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-bridge ) I am not sure this actually counts as IMAP/SMTP support. I think it should be "Paid and requires separate bridge program" Jrincayc (talk) 13:05, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SSL/TLS

Why is SSL and TLS seperated nobody uses SSL anymore, the column could denote the used max TLS version. But in this State it is weird. --Jannes Althoff (talk) 06:38, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]