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Welcome!

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WinAPI compiler support

Since you want to "check the compiler support section for facts and add references" anyway, let me warn you that currently it's much (not to say completely) erroneous. Not only is WinAPI 100% language-independent and can be used from Delphi or PowerBasic or assembly language or whatever, it has zero relationship with C++, and even IDL support isn't necessary.

Probably you'd like to rewrite that section from scratch, rather than trying to fix it. --tyomitch 14:15, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

VWN en WCN

Beste allemaal Al enige tijd is er een Nederlandstalig chapter in oprichting, te vinden op http://nl.wikimedia.org . Dit wordt de Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland (VWN). Je kunt je interesse om lid te worden van deze vereniging hier aangeven.

Deze vereniging gaat eind augustus/begin september een Wikimedia Conferentie in Nederland (WCN) houden, volgend op Wikimania in Boston, gedeeltelijk erop inspelend middels een aantal discussiegroepen. Om iets dergelijks te organiseren is imput erg gewenst. Dus als je wilt meehelpen, of als je interesse hebt om bij een dergelijk evenement aanwezig te zijn, geef dat dan aan op nl.wikimedia. Ik hoop daar snel je imput tegemoet te zien! Met vriendelijke groet, Effeietsanders 25 feb 2006 12:27 (CET)

just curious

are you the codemonkey I think you are? [1]

If so, glad to see you here.  :) Kasreyn 21:42, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, the handle I tend to go by was already taken on Wikipedia. Still, nice to meet you. :) --Codemonkey 21:47, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FF:CC for Wii

Last I checked, it was still a launch title. Has the date changed? Ladlergo 13:00, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I've looked, but I just could not find a source for FF:CC being a launch title. If you can, feel free to add the launch title references back to the Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers article, with a source cite. --Codemonkey 13:04, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Added the reference to the FFCC page and added the game back to the launch list. Ladlergo 13:15, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't take offense if you see a revert above your edit in the history of Talk:PlayStation 3, I was reverting 208.190.100.113's vandalism, not your edit... SCHZMO 19:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I won't. --Codemonkey 19:27, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Revert about controller on PS3

Blah. The reason I added that stuff about Sony being considered to have ripped off of Nintendo is because the PS3 article is very much lacking a neutral point of view. I see virtually none of the criticisms listed in the article and I know there are many to be had. Many people in the gaming community do consider Sony's controller to be a cheap move, and I tried my best to base it with statistics and sources as to avoid the whole "many people dislike the PS3's controller" comment that has no basis. What exactly SHOULD I use if not a Gamefaqs poll? There's hardly any other way to give a number to the statement to support it, and to leave the critism out altogether isn't proper.--SeizureDog 04:54, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A Gamefaqs poll tells you what a certain subsection of Gamefaqs readers think. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't find that particularly noteworthy, and don't think it needs special mention in the PS3 article. Trying to use it to justify broader statements about a general feeling of outrage is, I feel, disingenuous.
And NPOV does not mean having criticism for criticism sake. Where relevant, where notable, where verifiable, one can, even needs, to include points of critism. But to list every point of critism that can be made is, I feel, giving undue weight. Which is in itself a very subtle, but insiduous breaking of NPOV. While I don't mean to patronize, I'd like to point to WP:NPOV#Undue_weight as justification for my points. --Codemonkey 09:06, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
But my point is that it isn't a "very small minority opinion", and the poll reflects that. At the very least, it qualifies as a "significant minority" as stated in the link you provided. And to brush aside the results of the poll as merely "what a certain subsection of Gamefaqs readers think" is asinine. ANY poll is only what "a certain section" thinks, as it is impossible to get everyone's opinion. However, a GameFAQs poll is fairly unbias as far as polls go. It's not as if it suffers from a specific audience that would skew the poll one direction or another. Now if that poll was found on "Nintendofanboy.com" or something, then yes, it would be a terrible representation. But as it is, GameFAQs polls are about as good as you're going to see in terms of a fair representation of the community at large, and it shows that a fair amount of people don't approve what Sony is doing. Just as the Wii article deserves some talk on the unpopularity of its name, the PS3 article deserves a blurb on the unpopularity of its controller (and pricing) decisions. --SeizureDog 20:04, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Wii article uses a Forbes article to do so, though. A fair step up from a GameFAQs poll. Anyway, as for the 'undue weight' part, if it indeed is a "prominent minority" opinion, it should, as the link states, "be easy to name prominent adherents". If it is something more than that, it should be easy to "substantiate with commonly accepted reference texts". If you feel it needs adding, the burden of evidence is on you.
As for polls in general; real polls, conducted by actual polling bureaus, are easy enough to misuse already, and Wikipedia guidelines state that they should be used "with the utmost care".
And last, if you can't find anything better than a GameFAQs poll, as you seem to suggest, it might not deserve a mention in the article. It is not about what you feel 'deserves' to be in the article. We are not about truth in Wikipedia. We are about what is verifiable. It it isn't verifiable, it doesn't belong. --Codemonkey 20:30, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't say that Forbes is much of a step up from GameFAQs. While it is an established magazine, it's subject matter isn't video games at all (the fact the Wii thing got mentioned is a fluke) and if you noticed, Forbes itself was basing its reaction on message boards, which, I would use as a source myself if I didn't already know there's no way that'd hold up as a valid reference. I suppose all of this arguement has been good for something though, as I just found [this article] stating that a major employee of Nintendo is mad about the controller as well. Happy?--SeizureDog 21:04, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, yes. That is so much better. And I hope I haven't come across as to hostile in my replies. If so, my apologies. --Codemonkey 21:05, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize as well if I came off that way. In any case, it worked out for the best for all of us. Would you mind being the one to work this information though? You'd probably do a better job wording it than me, and would save that extra step of you rewriting whatever I put down ;) --SeizureDog 21:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. Just give me a minute. :) --Codemonkey 21:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

your changes in AR4 not visible ??

hi, I see in the change history you have added a comment to my last remark but I see neither in the text of the thread. I tried refreshing in two different browsers but I dont get the last two entries that do show in the history.

Can you explain why that should be. Is it local?

The last line I see the talk page is:

"I would not wish to load this entry..."

thx