Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oran derby

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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:17, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oran derby

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See WP:GNG and WP:NRIVALRY. The one reference provided is sadly a dead link. A search of 'Oran derby' or 'Mouloudia & Jam'iya derby' does not seem to bring much more than Wikipedia mirrors and YouTube videos. I've got a feeling that this might actually be a genuine rivalry but I think finding sources will be difficult and it looks like the two teams don't actually meet that often. Spiderone 12:38, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone 13:06, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 13:09, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Aside from WP:NOTSTATS issues, WP:NRIVALRY requires GNG to be met. Yes, these teams have played a number of times, but that in itself does not create a notable rivalry. I see no indication of significant, reliable coverage of the the notion of a rivalry between the two clubs. Fenix down (talk) 13:34, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 18:07, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - This article concerne a rivalry between two of the famouse clubs in Algeria and the best clubs of Oran (Football in Algeria). It's considered as one of some classicos in the country [1] [2]. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 20:08, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - those sources don't provide significant coverage of the rivalry itself:

This seems to simply be a brief article acting as a prelude to a series of matches. The words "Oran Derby" in reference to a match between these two teams are there, but there is nothing in the source that could be used to expand on the enWiki article beyond WP:ITEXISTS.
This seems very similar to the previous source, but its focus is on the Algerian Cup. Again, beyond the fact that matches between the two clubs are called the Oran Derby, there is nothing in this article that discusses the rivalry itself. Fenix down (talk) 09:02, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - No sorry, these two links expalin that this derby is one of the important matchs of the country. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 22:44, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. — Jkudlick ^tc_s 04:55, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mkdw ^talk 05:16, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 06:20, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - It could probably be a small rivalry, but I can not see any significant coverage or enough evidence so I dont think it passes WP:GNG and it is not notable. Qed237 (talk) 13:59, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's one of the great rivalries of the country (look just an exemple). --Fayçal.09 (talk) 20:39, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, YouTube is not a reliable source. Secondly, the sources in this AfD do nothing more than confirm that the rivalry exists. They do little to expand on that; there is no in-depth discussion of the rivalry. Spiderone 18:09, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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