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Article improvements

I re-wrote the article with the information currently available from the May 2021 news articles and EBU/Eurovision press releases to remove a maintenance tag. I also fixed the table to align with WP:ACCESSABILITY. I think it would be helpful if someone who has more time could write an source an Origins/History section before the Production section briefly explaining the Eurovision Song Contest with the further information hatnote to History of the Eurovision Song Contest. It would also be helpful to include some information from 2019 and 2020 about the American Song Contest in this section before it was officially confirmed for NBC today and where Logo TV and Netflix aired/streamed past ESC contests and a mention to Netflix's film Eurovision Song Contest: The Story of Fire Saga. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 03:53, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The "Other" American Song Contest

There is another event titled "American Song Contest," which is organized by the Embassy of Kyrgyzstan in the United States. Should we include a distinguisher tag with this as well? TreseTrese (talk) 16:08, 20 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Entries table

This table is completely useless because it contains no information at all. I think we should wait for it to be included until we actually have any info. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 08:45, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. TreseTrese (talk) 04:46, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

International broadcasting

I don't understand why this should be its own section. It contains very little information (only a list of five countries – something that could just be a single sentence) and is not at all a big aspect of the contest, not like any of the other sections. I've been bold and merged it with the production section a few times now but every time it got reverted by an unregistered user without explanation. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 00:40, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Create a new page for ASC 2022

Hi,
I feel like we should merge the list of participants and dates of the 2022 shows into a new 'American Song Contest 2022' page, and the current page could be just kept to topics related to ASC as a contest, similar to the current Eurovision page.
Thanks!
POLARIS183 (talk) 19:55, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This page is actually formatted more like a television show (since ASC is essentially that). As such, a page for each "season" typically only comes after the show has been renewed for a second season. Right now everything about the competition itself is related to the current year. Grk1011 (talk) 20:02, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK, so will we create two '22 and '23 pages next year?
Also, should we do a map of which countries have selected their song, and have been knocked out at which round?
Thanks!
POLARIS183 (talk) 16:07, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is not the Eurovision Song Contest. This is a singing competition inspired by Eurovision. It is a television show, not an event. Grk1011 (talk) 16:17, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Grk1011 actually might not be a bad idea to split this page into two. This page is already becoming quite big and the further into the show we go the bigger it will become. There is enough information that the two pages can stand on their own. In my sandbox is what a season/contest page could look like. The information there is only pertaining to the first contest with hatnotes linking to relevant sections of the parent page for more detail. The parent page needs some cleanup badly and splitting it into two could help with that. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 19:03, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think its typically because to frame a season page when you only have one, you need to duplicate all of the production section of the main article. Unlike events/shows with many seasons, every aspect about the development of show when there's only one season is part of that initial season. The article just barely satisfies WP:SIZERULE right now and it's mostly due to the tables, not the prose. I think it makes sense to wait it out and keep everything together for readability. Open to other thoughts. Grk1011 (talk) 13:01, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that it's to early to split the pages, but I think that a map is a good idea. Europe2016 ~ talk ~ Eurovision 08:04, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New info international broadcasting

Norway’s public TV channel NRK1 will broadcast the show[1] and in Sweden the show will be broadcast no SVT1.[2] 2001:8A0:F968:3601:CDD7:6A74:198C:7082 (talk) 11:26, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Portugal’ public TV channel RTP1 will broadcast the show.[3] 2001:8A0:F968:3601:CD64:77EA:7E45:6F3C (talk) 12:40, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.escplus.es/la-nrk-se-suma-a-la-lista-de-televisiones-europeas-que-emitiran-el-american-song-contest/
  2. ^ https://www.c21media.net/news/american-song-contest-heads-to-europe-after-sweden-bags-rights/
  3. ^ https://www.rtp.pt/programa/tv/p42155

Languages

In the Eurovision Song Contest, next to the song column in a table that details all of the songs, the language of the song is featured. Due to the fact that it is confirmed that English will not be the only language that appears in the American Song Contest, shouldn't a language column be added to the songs table? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.116.208 (talk) 21:25, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We probably should wait and see what languages the songs are in. So far all seem to be in English based on the clips except Puerto Rico's might be a mix of Spanish and English. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 18:57, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oops just saw this now. I already removed the language column. Most will be English, some will have phrases in other languages, etc, but it's not a critical part of the entry. No other American music competition has such column. Grk1011 (talk) 13:24, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Some entries are not fully in English though, take for instance the entry from U.S. Virgin Islands which is a complete mixture of English, Spanish, and Virgin Islands Creole.[1] Another case would be the entry from Arizona which is completely in Spanish, with only one line in English.[2] I think it would be better to put a specific languages section, just like in Eurovision Wikipedia articles although majority of the songs are in English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.168.39.6 (talk) 21:21, 11 April 2022 (GMT)

I feel given we now have a song almost completely in another and the contest been regional based (Like sister contest Eurovision); Language column is important part of the page, given the difference regional languages and diolect that have/will be used in the song contest. DJddog5 (talk) 05:13, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fix typo

“be worth” should say “being worth” 199.48.94.113 (talk) 11:34, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 11:38, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Eurovisionworld Source

I find this source for all the remaining song titles highly dubious for a number of reasons. There is no back up information, you can not find any information about where they got their information from. For example, the name of Arizonas entry seems to be based on the location of a recent instagram posting of the artists.

I recommend to not use this website as a trustworthy source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Florian100100 (talk • contribs) 12:00, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ "Cruz Rock - Celebrando Lyrics".
  2. ^ "Las Marías - From La Finikera (Audio)".
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