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Referencing
Hello! I noticed your edits regarding daily reports of COVID cases in Quebec at Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in June 2021 and various other timeline articles. Your edits are good and constructive, and references that you added are reliable and verifiable. However, you didn't follow WP:MOS when adding those references. References should not be placed as links, but be placed as references. Please read WP:CITE to cite properly. Thank you. Andykatib 05:08, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Just a reminder that you need to cite your references regarding COVID-19 cases in Quebec and Ontario properly instead of just pasting raw links. Please read WP:CITE for more information. The Templates tab on the left side of the editing ribbon should allow to choose a range of references. Please don't expect other Wikipedians to do your work for you. Andykatib 07:13, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Alternatively, if you are editing on mobile and are unable to add references, you may want to consider adding you updates to Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Canada/Ontario medical cases chart and Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Canada/Quebec medical cases chart. Also, please do get in touch with me and other Wikipedians. We are a community and communications is essential. Andykatib 03:50, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi S201050066, thanks very much for making the effort to reference your Ontario entry for 12 July 2021. For ease with adding references, click the Templates button on the top left corner of your editing ribbon. It is below the Bold and Italic buttons. If you click the arrow, you can either select "cite web" or "cite news". Both will allow you to add the author, title, publisher, date, url and other features. Hope this helps. Please write back if you have any questions. Andykatib 02:53, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
- Alternatively, if you are editing on mobile and are unable to add references, you may want to consider adding you updates to Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Canada/Ontario medical cases chart and Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Canada/Quebec medical cases chart. Also, please do get in touch with me and other Wikipedians. We are a community and communications is essential. Andykatib 03:50, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
Collaboration
Hello S201050066 and thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. Please note that collaboration and as a side effect, communication are important and also part of the editing process. For instance, see WP:ENGAGE, WP:DISCUSSFAIL, WP:BRD, WP:CONSENSUS, etc. If all attempts to contact you fail, it may unfortunately eventually be necessary to report you at an administrative noticeboard and a first block may result hoping to get your attention. This may be unnecessary and would still be easy to avoid. Thanks, —PaleoNeonate – 00:29, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
Ontario and Quebec references
Hi S201050066, I have been in touched with Tenryuu who thinks that the Ontarian and Quebec references would fit better in the Ontario and Quebec timeline articles respectively. He thinks that the monthly timeline articles should focus on the national level rather than provinces and states. Please help use to shift your Ontario and Quebec references to those articles. I'll be happy to help. Please make the effort to contact us, either here or on your talk page. It's also best to write in the past tense rather than the present tense since it becomes historical. Andykatib 01:53, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- help me would you guys move the references from Ontario and Quebec over to those pages for me please 6:45 July 13 — Preceding unsigned comment added by S201050066 (talk • contribs)
- Okay, no worries. Thanks for getting in touch with us. Andykatib 02:39, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
hi andykatib I actually founded more references from CTV News for ontario covid cases user s201050066 7:18 am Nov 12 2021
World Health Organization references
Hi there. Thanks for adding the World Health Organization weekly reports to the various COVID-19 timeline articles. Please remember that you have to cite them instead of posting raw links. See WP:CITE for more information. The Templates tab on the left side of the editing ribbon should allow to choose a range of references. Thanks. Andykatib 12:01, 23 August 2021 (UTC) thank you for letting me know user:s201050066 8:09 pm 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Raw links
Hi S201050066, I am baffled and annoyed as to why you have decided to paste raw urls for the Ontario entries of the various Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic articles. This is unnecessary because these articles already have references. All you need to is click on the number and it will take you to the References section at the bottom of the page. You have made no effort to listen to feedback and advice. I'm considering reporting you on WikiProject COVID-19 talkpage. I'm going to reverse all of your recent unnecessary edits. Andykatib 04:33, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- Dude im sorry about that I still don't know how to do it probably yet however I did however I did do that For Ontario and Malaysia Today 4:27 pm eastern time — Preceding unsigned comment added by S201050066 (talk • contribs)
- Hi S201050066, apologies accepted. Thanks for doing the Ontario and Malaysia references for 13 September. Sorry I overreacted. Because of my Asperger's Syndrome, I like things to be neat and orderly. I just feared having to format all those articles on my own. Would it help if I give a Zoom tutorial? Contact me if you're interested. My email address is akatibandrew@gmail.com. Best regards. Andykatib 21:14, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi S20105066, thanks so much for making the effort to add proper references. I see that you have been making the effort to do so on Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in September 2021. Keep up the good work and let me know if you need help. Cheers. Andykatib 02:24, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi S20105066, thanks for making the effort to add proper references to the various Timeline articles. Keep up the good work. Andykatib 02:18, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi S20105066, thanks so much for making the effort to add proper references. I see that you have been making the effort to do so on Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in September 2021. Keep up the good work and let me know if you need help. Cheers. Andykatib 02:24, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi S201050066, apologies accepted. Thanks for doing the Ontario and Malaysia references for 13 September. Sorry I overreacted. Because of my Asperger's Syndrome, I like things to be neat and orderly. I just feared having to format all those articles on my own. Would it help if I give a Zoom tutorial? Contact me if you're interested. My email address is akatibandrew@gmail.com. Best regards. Andykatib 21:14, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you
This is a collaborative project
...and I am going to echo comments by Andykatib and particularly User:PaleoNeonate. I reverted a set of your edits, saying they were unexplained and not very well written, and to my surprise you come right back and do the exact same thing. The verbiage is repetitive (do we really need to know every single time some peak was reached or not?), punctuation is missing, there's tons of small grammatical and other errors, and it's just not good prose. A small error here and there is one thing, but this, after a dozen edits to the same article, is not OK--and it reveals other errors you introduced--just look at the punctuation and the misspelled words. Simply reinstating the same, or similar content, without any kind of explanation, that's just not appropriate in a collaborative project: it is disruptive. Andykatib is doing a yeoman's job here mentoring you, but the plain fact is that you need to work harder on basic aspects of Wikipedia editing: grammar and punctuation, signing messages, writing acceptable prose, writing edit summaries--all of that. Please consider how you can contribute collaboratively to improving articles. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 17:13, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
- thank you for letting me know about that I'm sorry for wasted your time 1:35 eastern time — Preceding unsigned comment added by S201050066 (talk • contribs)
- Properly responding to and indenting talk page posts is another one. You're still not signing your posts; please see WP:TILDE and Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. But you are not actually answering any of my questions, and instead you have started editing while logged out, which is even more disruptive. I'm kind of at a loss for what to say. Drmies (talk) 22:57, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
- Agree with Drmies. For editing on Wikipedia, good English language sills, signing messages, and being able to work with others are keys to success. Please learn and improve yourself. Andykatib 00:32, 17 October 2021 (UTC) is I agree with Drmies
- Properly responding to and indenting talk page posts is another one. You're still not signing your posts; please see WP:TILDE and Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. But you are not actually answering any of my questions, and instead you have started editing while logged out, which is even more disruptive. I'm kind of at a loss for what to say. Drmies (talk) 22:57, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
Malaysian references
Hi S201050066, thanks for doing the Malaysian references on the various COVID-19 timeline pages. I just wanted to let you know that the Malaysian Health Ministry has a new COVID-19 daily reports website called COVIDNOW. Please use this source as it is more comprehensive than media outlets like The Edge. Andykatib 00:52, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Just a reminder that COVIDNOW is the best resource for Malaysian references. If you don't know how to do the Malaysian references, please look at the previous entries that I have fixed. If not, leave it to me. Andykatib 01:54, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
October 2021
Hello, I noticed that you may have recently made edits while logged out. Wikipedia's policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow the use of both an account and an IP address by the same person in the same setting and doing so may result in your account being blocked from editing. Additionally, making edits while logged out reveals your IP address, which may allow others to determine your location and identity. If this was not your intention, please remember to log in when editing. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 01:26, 17 October 2021 (UTC) Dremies i'm wondering could the block be in place until further notice 10:44 am eastern time
Ontario on Timeline of COVID-19 pages
I see you reverted my changes on Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in May 2020. Can you please explain why you keep adding the province of a country in a page where every other item in the list are countries themselves? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:07, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- because there were actually references there from CTV NEWS I actually found more references on there from covid cases from May 2020 I would want you to keep the references from ctv news on that I've took out the highest and lowest case counts from certain dates out for the month of May 2020 and there is no room on the Ontario Timeline to put the case counts on s201050066 1:09 pm eastern standard time
- @S201050066: Just because there are reliable sources for a given topic doesn't mean it should be given that kind of weight on a page like that, which talks about the pandemic on a global scale. Other countries have not given reports of their subdivisions, nor are there other Canadian provinces that have done the same on those pages. New infections are a daily occurrence, so it'd be better to find a centralised source from which to update from and regularly update from there instead of finding new CTV News sources each time. COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario could do with some updating, so why not do it there instead?
Also please see Wikipedia:Indentation and remember to sign properly. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:03, 12 November 2021 (UTC) - Addendum: I have no problem with Canada, the entire country, being reported there, but just Ontario looks out of place. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:05, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi S201050066, I have to agree with Tenryuu’s position that the various Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic articles focus on national data rather than regional and provincial data. One solution is to put the Ontario daily reports into tables within the Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario. Have been working on tables for the various of the Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand articles. This table would have information on daily cases, deaths, recoveries as well as to table figures. Could work on a template for you.Andykatib 21:36, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- I agree what you guys are saying there is something very similar to that on Canada's timeline the problems you can't see the number while editing it 6:40 pm eastern standard time.— Preceding unsigned comment added by S201050066 (talk • contribs)
- Working on a draft at Sandbox. Will paste it into the March section of the Ontario article once it is ready. This table is a simple one. S201050066, this could be something we could work together on if you want. Andykatib 23:47, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- I think I will left you guys do the work I jsut got back from doing Aarons and I am really tried right now 9:14 pm eastern standard time.— Preceding unsigned comment added by S201050066 (talk • contribs)
- Hi there, have converted the Ontario daily cases content from March 2020 into a table. See Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario#March. I'll do a section for November 2021 as we well at the bottom of the Toronto timeline article later. Feel free to have a look at the template in the edit screen and copy it for later months. This will probably take a few weeks or months so take your time. Let me know if you need help. Can work alongside you. Andykatib 09:07, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
- I think I will left you guys do the work I jsut got back from doing Aarons and I am really tried right now 9:14 pm eastern standard time.— Preceding unsigned comment added by S201050066 (talk • contribs)
- Working on a draft at Sandbox. Will paste it into the March section of the Ontario article once it is ready. This table is a simple one. S201050066, this could be something we could work together on if you want. Andykatib 23:47, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- I agree what you guys are saying there is something very similar to that on Canada's timeline the problems you can't see the number while editing it 6:40 pm eastern standard time.— Preceding unsigned comment added by S201050066 (talk • contribs)
- Hi S201050066, I have to agree with Tenryuu’s position that the various Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic articles focus on national data rather than regional and provincial data. One solution is to put the Ontario daily reports into tables within the Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario. Have been working on tables for the various of the Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand articles. This table would have information on daily cases, deaths, recoveries as well as to table figures. Could work on a template for you.Andykatib 21:36, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- @S201050066: Just because there are reliable sources for a given topic doesn't mean it should be given that kind of weight on a page like that, which talks about the pandemic on a global scale. Other countries have not given reports of their subdivisions, nor are there other Canadian provinces that have done the same on those pages. New infections are a daily occurrence, so it'd be better to find a centralised source from which to update from and regularly update from there instead of finding new CTV News sources each time. COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario could do with some updating, so why not do it there instead?
- thank you for making it for March 2020 but Ontario first case is actually on January 25 2020 and also there were covid cases in Late February 2020 as well and also what about the rest of the months to s201050066 7:27 am eastern standard time
- The cases in January and February 2020 are small enough that they can be listed in sentences. It only starts to snowball in March 2020. Hence that's why I added the table there. If you have a look at the table template in the edit screen for March 2020, you will see a template at the top that can be copied for the other articles. Study the patterns for the dates and you will get the idea. Also look through the sources in the daily updates. They will give information about total figures, recoveries and deaths. So far, you have only been listing the new cases. You will have to learn some new skills a bit at time if you want to be a successful contributor. Thanks. Andykatib (talk) 20:22, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
- hi Andykatib thank you telling about January and February of 2020 my plan for now is to put the cases counts on Both the Main Timeline of the Covid-19-pandemic and the Timeline Of The Covid-19 pandemic for Ontario similar to what you did with Malaysia and New Zealand until I could get the rest of the templates up I will be publishing them on the actual page itself s201050066 3:43 pm eastern standard time
- Good, like your enthusiasm. Still, I think the Ontario timeline might be the best place for these daily updates since the main COVID-19 Timeline pages deal with it on a national level. The main Timeline pages are probably more suitable for Canadian cases on a national level. This would help avoid friction with other users who may object to having provincial or state level daily updates on the main Timeline articles. With the Malaysia ones, let me handle them since you should be citing the main page rather than the case pages. If you want to do it, look at the way I have done them. If you don't know how to cite the references, just leave the Malaysian ones to me. Thanks. Andykatib 00:27, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Andykatib thank you for telling this over the past couple of days but I'm just wondering about Quebec Canada and Victoria Australia because there are also not countries 8:34 pm eastern standard time November 13 2021
- Hi S201050066 again, I think those were added back before they had that understanding. I'm unsure if they have formalised that policy about not including regions in the main COVID-19 timeline articles. But it's good to have a back-up place for them. Andykatib 02:00, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- hi Andykatib thank you for letting about the policy I know it was not an easy decision to make but at the end of the day it national cases only I should've listened to you guys back in July when this was brought to my attention I know you guys had added Canada's in the past but but they were not on there everyday s201050066 10:04 pm eastern standard time
- Hi S201050066, I have added a table into the November 2021 section of the Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario for the daily cases that month. Could help with the tables but do give it a try. An opportunity to learn some new editing skills. Andykatib 10:01, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Andykatib thank you very mush and I was wondering you should create a table for the covid cases in Ontario from April 2020 to October 2021 and I hope you have a wonderful day and stay safe AndyKatib and I will try my best to sign messages s201050066 1:03 pm eastern standard time November 14 2021
- hi Andykatib I feel like you guys should do the job for me on moving the covid cases onto the ontario timelien Iam always busy during the week with school and other things so I 'am leaving the responsibility to you guys to do it s201050066 2:26 pm eastern standard time November 14 2021
- No worries, will keep in touch. Will be happy to continue working on the other tables for the previous months. Wish you all the best at high school and will keep in touch. Andykatib 20:24, November 14 2021 (UTC)
- hi Andykatib I feel like you guys should do the job for me on moving the covid cases onto the ontario timelien Iam always busy during the week with school and other things so I 'am leaving the responsibility to you guys to do it s201050066 2:26 pm eastern standard time November 14 2021
- Hi Andykatib thank you very mush and I was wondering you should create a table for the covid cases in Ontario from April 2020 to October 2021 and I hope you have a wonderful day and stay safe AndyKatib and I will try my best to sign messages s201050066 1:03 pm eastern standard time November 14 2021
- Hi S201050066, I have added a table into the November 2021 section of the Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario for the daily cases that month. Could help with the tables but do give it a try. An opportunity to learn some new editing skills. Andykatib 10:01, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- hi Andykatib thank you for letting about the policy I know it was not an easy decision to make but at the end of the day it national cases only I should've listened to you guys back in July when this was brought to my attention I know you guys had added Canada's in the past but but they were not on there everyday s201050066 10:04 pm eastern standard time
- Hi S201050066 again, I think those were added back before they had that understanding. I'm unsure if they have formalised that policy about not including regions in the main COVID-19 timeline articles. But it's good to have a back-up place for them. Andykatib 02:00, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Andykatib thank you for telling this over the past couple of days but I'm just wondering about Quebec Canada and Victoria Australia because there are also not countries 8:34 pm eastern standard time November 13 2021
- The cases in January and February 2020 are small enough that they can be listed in sentences. It only starts to snowball in March 2020. Hence that's why I added the table there. If you have a look at the table template in the edit screen for March 2020, you will see a template at the top that can be copied for the other articles. Study the patterns for the dates and you will get the idea. Also look through the sources in the daily updates. They will give information about total figures, recoveries and deaths. So far, you have only been listing the new cases. You will have to learn some new skills a bit at time if you want to be a successful contributor. Thanks. Andykatib (talk) 20:22, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
- all right I'll stay in touch with you too S201050066
- Have fixed the table reference problems for the November 2021 table. Good work on adding the figures. Andykatib 23:00, November 14 2021 (UTC)
April 2022 - ongoing issue
@Andykatib and Tenryuu: This editor is still adding Ontario, and now Quebec too, to the world COVID timeline page. They are also adding THREE sources for one of them. I thought they were going to add them to the relevant Canadian province timeline pages only, and stop adding them to to the 'world' page? 220 of ßorg 04:39, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging S201050066, who we've had a conversation about this before. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:20, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Agree with 220 of Borg and Tenryuu. I have advised 201050066 repeatedly that it is best to put the provincial data into the provincial timeline articles. He or she lacks the knowledge and skills on how to present the data. Have been updating the Ontario tables. Have tried to be helpful but the user struggles with grammar, punctuation and basic editing skills.Andykatib 08:21, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi Andykatib and Tenryuu since November of 2021, I have been putting Canada's national cases into monthly timelines and even put some of the cases from March to December of 2020. But I would advice you both to keep an eye on User 99.252.42.107 he has been putting Ontario edits as well to the monthly timeline pages are you guys starting to crack down on him S201050066 6:13 eastern daylight time April 30 2022.
- The IP address isn't the one reverting my edits after I removed Ontario and Quebec. We're discussing your behaviour here. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this:
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. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:45, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Could I actually be blocked from editing if this continues S201050066 (talk) 16:09, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, especially when you give someone the wrong warning (which you subsequently removed). Self-revert your reversion on each of the COVID-19 timeline pages, or I will take this to administrator attention, especially when multiple editors have told you that the information isn't suitable to be on those pages. Keep it in COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario and COVID-19 pandemic in Quebec. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:48, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Malaysian references again
- Hi S201050066. Can you please leave the Malaysian updates on the Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic articles for me to do it. You can't seem to cite the references correctly and only list the new daily cases. I have already told you to cite the main page and not COVID-19 Cases in Malaysia which does not have the full information. I appreciate your enthusiasm and willingness to help but helping sometimes means listening to instructions and advice from other people. If you can't cite the references correctly, please let me and other users deal with it. Just focus on the Ontario references since you're the expert on them. Thanks. Andykatib 23:17, November 14 2021 (UTC)
- sure I'll leave Malaysia to you I recognize that is the country you used to live in I totally understand S201050066 6:36 pm eastern standard time November 14 2021
- Thanks, glad we have an understanding. Take care and stay safe. Andykatib 23:59, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- you're welcome S201050066 7:29 pm eastern standard time November 14 2021
- Hi S201050066, my apologies. I checked the history section of Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in November 2021. Have realized that it was Keith1611 who was making those edits for the Malaysian daily updates. Have messaged him in order to get him to address his mistakes. Sorry for troubling you about it. Andykatib 22:24, 15 November 2021 (UTC) ******thank you for making me aware S201050066 15 November 2021 8:40 pm eastern standard time
- you're welcome S201050066 7:29 pm eastern standard time November 14 2021
- Thanks, glad we have an understanding. Take care and stay safe. Andykatib 23:59, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- sure I'll leave Malaysia to you I recognize that is the country you used to live in I totally understand S201050066 6:36 pm eastern standard time November 14 2021
- Hello S201050066 again, I noticed that today you updated the Malaysian reference for 21 December but put in the wrong url. This is the correct link. If you want to edit, please do it properly. The reference was also in a mess and I had to correct it. If you can't get it right, please let me do it. I know you want to help but other people can find it annoying when you try to help and mess things up. Andykatib 03:58, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Andykatib thank you for making me aware I hope you have a great holiday season S201050066 22 December 2021.
- You're welcome. Glad we have an understanding. Wish you all the best for Christmas and the New Year. Andykatib 11:34, 22 December 2021
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Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario
Thanks for adding the references from June 2020 to the Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario. Will convert into a table when I'm free. Andykatib 1:50, 30 November 2021 (UTC) Hi Andykatib thank you I will also be doing the rest of the months too in the coming weeks. S201050066
- Hi there, I have managed to create two separate Ontario timeline articles for 2020 and 2021. The 2020 article is about 306,000 bytes so you may want to reduce the length for the daily reports by cutting down the number of reference to one. I notice you tend to use two of three sources. Using one reference (the most useful one which is usually Global News) ill help reduce the length. Andykatib 20:34, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Andykatib thank you for the concern im fine with going down to one reference a day i'm just wondering should I do it for the both the main articles and the Ontario timeline. S201050066
- Up to you, I think the Ontario timeline articles could just do with one. Andykatib 22:09, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- thank you Andykatib I hope you have a wonderful day. S201050066
- You too. Stay safe and take care. Andykatib 00:30, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- thank you Andykatib I hope you have a wonderful day. S201050066
- Up to you, I think the Ontario timeline articles could just do with one. Andykatib 22:09, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Andykatib thank you for the concern im fine with going down to one reference a day i'm just wondering should I do it for the both the main articles and the Ontario timeline. S201050066
- S201050066, it might help if you could improve your grammar and spelling as well as your editing skills. That will reduce the risk of other users reverting your edits. For example, you could try and have a go at assembling some of the tables yourself. I usually use my sandbox for working on projects until they are of a satisfactory level. Your user account should come with a sandbox as well. It may also help for you to create a user page as well. Maybe just a brief biography about yourself. You could also talk about your interests. That will help you build a profile here. Andykatib 01:22, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- thank you andykatib stay safe S201050066
- Hi Andykatib I hope your having a wonderful day I finished moving the cases over for the month of January 2021 but very reason lee and I think you've been noticing too that the case counts have been rising dramatically and Ontario might be following a similar trend to what happened in Malaysia keep up the good work buddy and merry Christmas. S201050066 8:48 pm eastern standard time December 17 2021
Daily updates
Hi 201050066. One suggestion I have for your daily reports is to list other figures besides the number of new cases on the various Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic pages. For example, you could have sentences describing the new cases and total cases, recoveries and total recoveries, deaths and death toll. That will make your information more interesting and useful. Also for the daily reports, no need to state that date x's figure exceeded a new record on date y. Been a bit busy but hope to get through December 2020 soon on the Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario (2020) page. Andykatib 00:07, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Andykatib thank you for letting me know but I've checked daily epidemiologic summaries and they do not go as far back as mid march 2020 they only started using it on March 30 2020. S201050066 20 December 2021 10:30 pm eastern standard time.
Revert
I'm not sure why you reverted my edit on the Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario article. I followed the reference format like the previous entries on the table. 747pilot (talk) 23:40, 30 December 2021 (UTC) Hi 747pilot the reason why I had to do it was because you did a good job with the table it was just that you posted a raw link instead of a proper reference S201050066
- Hi 747pilot, thanks for your edit to Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario (2021). Make sure that the reference is closed properly. I noticed you didn't include the "<" which prevented it from closing properly. Welcome onboard and feel free to edit the Timeline pages. The more people we have, the merrier. Andykatib 23:57, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- S201050066, don't be too hard on other new users like 747pilot. He's trying to help. People make mistakes so please be more welcoming next time. Have also created a Draft:Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario (2022) and will move it to the mainspace on 1 January 2021. Andykatib 23:58, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- hi Andykatib I understand I used to do that all the time but I Learnt how to reference things properly but I at least completed moving all the cases over for the month Of February 2021 and I will be welcome next time for sure happy new year. S201050066 30 December 2021
- Okay, a bit of grace is sometimes good. People do make mistakes. Andykatib 01:40, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- hi Andykatib I understand I used to do that all the time but I Learnt how to reference things properly but I at least completed moving all the cases over for the month Of February 2021 and I will be welcome next time for sure happy new year. S201050066 30 December 2021
- S201050066, don't be too hard on other new users like 747pilot. He's trying to help. People make mistakes so please be more welcoming next time. Have also created a Draft:Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario (2022) and will move it to the mainspace on 1 January 2021. Andykatib 23:58, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
December 2021
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2022).
- The Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines have been published for consideration. Voting to ratify this guideline is planned to take place 7 March to 21 March. Comments can be made on the talk page.
- The user group
oversight
will be renamedsuppress
in around 3 weeks. This will not affect the name shown to users and is simply a change in the technical name of the user group. The change is being made for technical reasons. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections. - The Reply Tool feature, which is a part of Discussion Tools, will be opt-out for everyone logged in or logged out starting 7 February 2022. Editors wishing to comment on this can do so in the relevant Village Pump discussion.
- The user group
- Community input is requested on several motions aimed at addressing discretionary sanctions that are no longer needed or overly broad.
- The Arbitration Committee has published a generalised comment regarding successful appeals of sanctions that it can review (such as checkuser blocks).
- A motion related to the Antisemitism in Poland case was passed following a declined case request.
- Voting in the 2022 Steward elections will begin on 07 February 2022, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2022, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- Voting in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey is open until 11 February 2022.
Administrators' newsletter – March 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2022).
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- A RfC is open to change the wording of revision deletion criterion 1 to remove the sentence relating to non-infringing contributions.
- A RfC is open to discuss prohibiting draftification of articles over 90 days old.
- The deployment of the reply tool as an opt-out feature, as announced in last month's newsletter, has been delayed to 7 March. Feedback and comments are being welcomed at Wikipedia talk:Talk pages project. (T296645)
- Special:Nuke will now allow the selection of standard deletion reasons to be used when mass-deleting pages. This was a Community Wishlist Survey request from 2022. (T25020)
- The ability to undelete the talk page when undeleting a page using Special:Undelete or the API will be added soon. This change was requested in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey. (T295389)
- Several unused discretionary sanctions and article probation remedies have been rescinded. This follows the community feedback from the 2021 Discretionary Sanctions review.
- The 2022 appointees for the Ombuds commission are Érico, Faendalimas, Galahad, Infinite0694, Mykola7, Olugold, Udehb and Zabe as regular members and Ameisenigel and JJMC89 as advisory members.
- Following the 2022 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AntiCompositeNumber, BRPever, Hasley, TheresNoTime, and Vermont.
- The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey results have been published alongside the ranking of prioritized proposals.
Archiving references
Hi S202050066, one suggestion for references is to archive them using the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine. If you go to their website, they have a search engine that allows you to find different versions of pages. They also have a Save Page Now feature on that page which allows you to save links. Usually it works but sometimes it can take a few minutes or hours depending on server issues. Thought this might be helpful for you. Andykatib 23:41, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi AndyKatib thank you for letting me know. S201050066 6:02 am March 10 2022 eastern standard time.
- Hi AndyKatib How does you get the wayback machine to work on the Wikipedia edits. S201050066 4:35 pm eastern standard time March 10 2022.
- Usually, we don't save the urls of Wikipedia webpages onto it. Just the urls of the external sources that you cite. Cheers. Andykatib 02:14, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi AndyKatib How does you get the wayback machine to work on the Wikipedia edits. S201050066 4:35 pm eastern standard time March 10 2022.
Administrators' newsletter – April 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2022).
- An RfC is open proposing a change to the minimum activity requirements for administrators.
- Access to Special:RevisionDelete has been expanded to include users who have the
deletelogentry
anddeletedhistory
rights. This means that those in the Researcher user group and Checkusers who are not administrators can now access Special:RevisionDelete. The users able to view the special page after this change are the 3 users in the Researcher group, as there are currently no checkusers who are not already administrators. (T301928) - When viewing deleted revisions or diffs on Special:Undelete a back link to the undelete page for the associated page is now present. (T284114)
- Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures § Opening of proceedings has been updated to reflect current practice following a motion.
- A arbitration case regarding Skepticism and coordinated editing has been closed.
- A arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been opened.
- Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines has closed, and the results were that 56.98% of voters supported the guidelines. The results of this vote mean the Wikimedia Foundation Board will now review the guidelines.
April 2022
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:55, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk:Tenryuu. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:41, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
resignation
Hi everybody I know that you guys have really liked me editing on Wikipedia but recent lee I had gotten some allegations against about editing covid cases from Ontario and Quebec and since them I gotten some behavior that has made me concerned because of the allegations I'm sad to announced that effective immediately I will be resigning from the COVID 19 Wikipedia project my voice is no longer welcome here and this is not stainable.S201050066 (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi S201050066, I think you need to calm down and listen. Edit warring and using profanity are not on. I appreciate your contributions on Ontario and Quebec but you need to listen to advice and feedback from other users like Tenryuu. Perhaps, the data on Ontario and Quebec should go in the provincial timeline pages. I am willing to help if you want. However, you need to listen to feedback and be willing to play by the rules here if you want to contribute. Andykatib (talk) 21:27, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Andykatib im very sorry for getting angry at you guys for it too get this bad if Tenryuu had asked to me deleted them I would have done it the problem you guys did not tell me that you guys actually were mad at me you guys should had told me before reverting the edits I should've known and I got it wrong and for that im sorry. S201050066 (talk) 22:03, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- If you have no problem with deleting your contributions to those pages, why are you constantly reverting mine, then? Your contributions aren't the only issue; there are many items on there that aren't sourced and should be removed. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:18, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi I am going to take them out but put the references with Canada itself. S201050066 (talk) 22:26, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- If you have no problem with deleting your contributions to those pages, why are you constantly reverting mine, then? Your contributions aren't the only issue; there are many items on there that aren't sourced and should be removed. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:18, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Andykatib im very sorry for getting angry at you guys for it too get this bad if Tenryuu had asked to me deleted them I would have done it the problem you guys did not tell me that you guys actually were mad at me you guys should had told me before reverting the edits I should've known and I got it wrong and for that im sorry. S201050066 (talk) 22:03, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi S20105006, just wanted to reassure you that we are not mad at you. We are just upholding the agreed rules and policies in Wikipedia. Let me know if you need help transferring the Ontario and Quebec content to the provincial timeline articles. There are three timeline articles for Ontario based on the year. Quebec had one. Andykatib (talk) 23:25, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- thank you for ensuring that S201050066 (talk) 23:30, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
ANI notification
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is S201050066 and COVID-19 timeline pages. Thank you. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:14, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Is not fair how guys treated me I'll be back and you are all going to get it. S201050066 (talk) 20:29, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Notification for awareness of discretionary sanctions
This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.
You have shown interest in COVID-19, broadly construed. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.
To opt out of receiving messages like this one, place {{Ds/aware}}
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Schazjmd (talk) 23:13, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Edit warring on Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in April 2022
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in April 2022. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Points to note:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. — Manticore 23:53, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- I hope this does not turn into a site wide ban. S201050066 (talk) 00:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Warning
Any further edit warring will result in a block. If that edit warring relates to COVID, I will issue an indefinite topic ban per the notification above. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#S201050066 and COVID-19 timeline pages (permalink). If reverted, you must discuss the issue on the article talk page and not repeat an edit unless clear consensus is established at talk. Johnuniq (talk) 00:17, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- so your saying I Would be banned from all covid-19 pages. S201050066 (talk) 00:25, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
S201050066 and COVID-19 timeline pages from the Ani
S201050066 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
This user has been told by multiple editors that the addition of Ontario (and to a smaller extent, Quebec) cases, recoveries, and deaths to an international COVID-19 timeline page (e.g., Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in March 2020) does not have due weight, and had been given the suggestion to improve COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario and COVID-19 pandemic in Quebec instead. To the best of my knowledge, Andykatib had been working with them to improve those articles, and I thought that was that. Their grasp of the English language is tenuous at best, and I am not sure they fully understand what other users are telling them (the introduction and readdition of grammatical errors, and not understanding how to sign or use talk pages correctly). It's only today that they learned how to use the reply button.
Yesterday I was pinged by 220 of Borg at User talk:S201050066 about the user's persistent additions to the timeline pages, and I went through those pages to remove those lines and make other small changes. S201050066 then reverts my changes without an edit summary several times while I discussed this on their talk page. For example, on Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in April 2020:
Though none have gotten close to breaching 3RR like the aforementioned page, reversions have also occurred so far on:
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in March 2020
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in May 2020
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in June 2020
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in July 2020
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in August 2020
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in September 2020
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in October 2020
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in November 2020
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in December 2020
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in January 2021
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in February 2021
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in March 2021
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in April 2021
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in May 2021
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in June 2021
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in July 2021
- Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in August 2021
for which one can find the reversions on the history pages.
If the issue was only edit warring, I would've gone to the edit warring noticeboard (warning given here), but their conduct extends beyond that. After that, S201050066 gave me a templated warning for making personal attacks, though nowhere have I done that. After giving them a firm warning, they removed it and my reply, claiming that they would do better with [their] behavior for [sic] now on
. After admonishing them one more time for their conduct, S201050066 said I was free to re-revert their reversions and that they were leaving Wikipedia, and after I did so, they changed their mind and started reverting my reimplemented changes with a fuck you
; I gave them a warning for that. They finished with a "leaving Wikipedia for good" comment.
Addendum: S201050066 left a veiled threat. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:13, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- what is wrong with you guys if you had let me continue putting the Ontario and Quebec covid references on the timeline pages we would have not had been in this mess I think you guys had owned me an apology it should've never came down to this S201050066 (talk) 20:41, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- I reverted another month of the covid 19 timeline page S201050066 (talk) 20:58, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- For someone who said they were leaving Wikipedia forever, you seem to be hanging around. You do not get an apology, as multiple editors have said that Ontario is too insignificant to be on the international pages. Canada as an entire country is fine; Ontario as a province is not. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:06, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- False user warnings, edit warring, and editing against consensus are all disruptive to the project. S201050066, why should you be permitted to continue to contribute to Wikipedia? Schazjmd (talk) 21:06, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- if you guys don' want me on Wikipedia anymore just block my account forever and that is it S201050066 (talk) 21:10, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Should that be taken as an admission that you have no intention of changing your behaviour? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:40, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Schazjmd so what happened was that I was putting the CP24 references into monthly timeline pages and then I went to bed I woke up in the morning and I saw the edits so I undid them and they kept doing it and then I decided to resign I did not resign from Wikipedia and resigned from the COVID-19 project and then they reverted edits again and they kept doing it and I fired back at them and told them to stop but they didn't listen to me Tenryuu then threated to report me I feel like I am getting harassed on Wikipedia and my right to edit was just getting trampled on and I don't know what to do. S201050066 (talk) 21:46, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Last November you acknowledged the problems that other editors had identified with your edits:
thank you for letting about the policy I know it was not an easy decision to make but at the end of the day it national cases only I should've listened to you guys back in July when this was brought to my attention
.[1] Yet you're continuing to repeat the problematic edits (such as adding Quebec and Ontario to global COVID articles). On your talk page, I see multiple editors have put in a lot of effort to try and help you improve. If you're not willing to listen to them, learn, and improve, you're simply making a lot of work for other editors who have to fix errors that you introduce. Your comments here don't give me any confidence that you're going to make any changes in the way you've been editing. Schazjmd (talk) 22:01, 30 April 2022 (UTC) - Let's be clear here: no one has a right to edit; it's a privilege that can be rescinded if it's being abused. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:10, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- when did you guys change the policy of allowing non country's onto the monthly timeline pages and who told on me about the issue S201050066 (talk) 22:57, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Last November you acknowledged the problems that other editors had identified with your edits:
- if you guys don' want me on Wikipedia anymore just block my account forever and that is it S201050066 (talk) 21:10, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- I reverted another month of the covid 19 timeline page S201050066 (talk) 20:58, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Update: S201050066 has reached the 3RR limit at Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in April 2022 (1 2 3), and has received an edit warring warning from Manticore. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:07, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- ...and they've breached 3RR. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:15, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Note that S201050066 is continuing to put Ontario data on the timeline even now, along with some other trivia (e.g., football players getting COVID). I believe an indefinite block is needed until we get a sincere demonstration that the disruptions will not continue. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 23:31, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed. The disruption[2][3][4][5] is just too much Schazjmd (talk) 23:36, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Being a wimp, I have issued a final warning at User talk:S201050066#Warning. Let me know if further action is required. Johnuniq (talk) 00:20, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Johnuniq, they just reverted again.[6] (and again[7][8][9]). I'm afraid they don't intend to stop until they're blocked. Schazjmd (talk) 00:33, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- They're continuing to edit war. See Special:Diff/1085521191 — rsjaffe 🗣️ 00:34, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- They've also done something like 5 reverts in the last hour. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 00:36, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, was just about to report here I was immediately reverted without explanation in violation of 3RR after the final warning. Needs an indef block and a cleanup of all these edits. Singularity42 (talk) 00:39, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oops, they've done it again! I'm not going to try to fix the page yet again, as it'll just be reverted by them. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 00:44, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- This reversion has a misleading edit summary—
Undid revision 1085522041 by Rsjaffe (talk) no Ontario references should be on here
—where they reintroduced said Ontario references. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)- I wonder if that was a missing comma? ("No, Ontario references should be on here") Singularity42 (talk) 00:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- This has become kind of sad. I feel sorry for the user, but I don't think the user is rehabilitable. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 00:50, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- This person definitely seems to need a timeout. Zaathras (talk) 01:32, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- They've also done something like 5 reverts in the last hour. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 00:36, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Johnuniq, we may need admin action here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:38, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Leave the Ontario References on there. S201050066 (talk) 02:02, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Being a wimp, I have issued a final warning at User talk:S201050066#Warning. Let me know if further action is required. Johnuniq (talk) 00:20, 1 May 2022 (UTC)