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Factual error

“The term "BDSM" is first recorded in a Usenet posting from 1991, and is interpreted as a combination of the abbreviations B/D (Bondage and Discipline), D/s (Dominance and submission), and S/M (Sadism and Masochism).”

Now “is interpreted” is pretty weasely (by whom?). But the point is that the ORIGINAL meaning, in use for decades, is only the first and the last. It was BD and SM. This should be said. DS was projected or plugged onto the acronym at a much later date. This is what linguists call “popular etymology”. My guess, and it’s only a guess, is that this was around 2000 (so it seems to the young people to have always been that way).

Now this is all I’m going to say about it. It’s not worth any more of my time. My only goal is that the elite few who read talk page histories will know that I took my time to point out this error. deisenbe (talk) 01:09, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unless you intend to fix and source the error, the elite few don't care. Chaheel Riens (talk) 07:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"Fix and source" is correct, and good luck with that (particularly the "source" part). There's a lengthy discussion at Talk:BDSM/Archive_4#Etymology if you're up for it. As for the quoted statement, it doesn't appear clear in the citation that the original meaning was exclusive of DS as you say. HalJor (talk) 21:01, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
HalJor -- that discussion was an elaborate gavotte about sources which seemed reputable enough, but lacked any ascertainable clarity of meaning or usefulness for this article.
I already very specifically replied to User:Deisenbe at Talk:BDSM/Archive 5#Bdsm does not include "dominant/submissive" with cites showing that D/S was part of BDSM either at the beginning, or close enough to the beginning to make no practical difference now... AnonMoos (talk) 07:06, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. User:Deisenbe -- I just noticed that in 2015 User:DavidPKendal also replied to you at length at Talk:BDSM/Archive 5#Meaning of the acronym BDSM. Please do not raise this point again without addressing what User:DavidPKendal and/or myself have previously replied to you... AnonMoos (talk) 15:49, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2020

Change the equivalence of the top & bottom

So a top is not always a dominant and neither is a bottom always a sub. There are tops who are subs and 🔃 so it is not correct thanks for changing it :) 2A01:E0A:2AF:FC00:5DED:D453:7D2A:1E8D (talk) 00:35, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is covered in some detail at Top, bottom, switch (BDSM) but it could be clearer here, or with a link to that article when discussing Roles. HalJor (talk) 02:23, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:19, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2020

From this perspective, the Kama Sutra can be considered as one of the first written resources dealing with sadomasochistic activities and safety rules. Further texts with sadomasochistic connotation appear worldwide during the following centuries on a regular basis

}} Rajesh000134679 (talk) 03:42, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is not of sadomasochism but for control eroticism ,affection and intimacy. Rajesh000134679 (talk) 03:46, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

From this perspective, the Kama Sutra can be considered as one of the first written resources dealing with sadomasochistic activities and safety rules. Further texts with sadomasochistic connotation appear worldwide during the following centuries on a regular basis

This paragraph from bdsm history need to be edit that written sadomasochistic activities or passive masochism are describing in kamsutra but really they are described as for control eroticism,affection,intimacy. You can read kamsutra pdf and understand. Rajesh000134679 (talk) 03:51, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

From this perspective, the Kama Sutra can be considered as one of the first written resources dealing with hitting and biting for control eroticism affection and intimacy. Rajesh000134679 (talk) 04:01, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. This is just gibberish. You need to show sources to back up your unclear motive. I have also removed the duplicate requests you made. Curved Space (talk) 10:00, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Should I be cleaning up broken links? This book doesn't even have an article in German Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vagabond219 (talk • contribs) 01:04, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Top and bottom in sex and BDSM" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Top and bottom in sex and BDSM. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 25#Top and bottom in sex and BDSM until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. —AFreshStart (talk) 20:50, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

Remove the paragraphs:

It is necessary to be able to identify each person's psychological "squicks" or triggers in advance to avoid them. Such losses of emotional balance due to sensory or emotional overload are a fairly commonly discussed issue. It is important to follow participants' reactions empathetically and continue or stop accordingly. For some players, sparking "freakouts" or deliberately using triggers may be the desired outcome. Safewords are one way for BDSM practices to protect both parties. However, partners should be aware of each other's psychological states and behaviors to prevent instances where the "freakouts" prevent the use of safewords.

After any BDSM activities, it is important that the participants go through sexual aftercare, to process and calm down from the activity. After the sessions, participants can need aftercare because their bodies have experienced trauma and they need to mentally come out of the role play.

Wikipedia does not give advice. 217.42.40.30 (talk) 21:05, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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