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Hungarian official data is a bit manupulated. Only counts on the salaries of companies/organization with at least 5 employees. If considering all workers, the net salary would be about 550-600 euro per month

'Hungarian official data is a bit manupulated. Only counts on the salaries of companies/organization with at least 5 employees. If considering all workers, the net salary would be about 550-600 euro per month.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.101.193.220 (talk) 09:33, 1 February 2021 (UTC) [reply]

Correction of Bulgarian average wages

The data for Q4 2020 (€582 net) have come out and are input in the table. However, the maps still contain the old figures. Can someone correct that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.85.1.235 (talk) 11:45, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Remember to use an edit request in the future; it makes it easier for editors to see your request. Parrotapocalypse (talk) 15:50, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2021

Newest data:

Lithuania Q4 2020. EUR 1524.2 BRUTTO, EUR 967.3 NET. https://osp.stat.gov.lt/informaciniai-pranesimai?eventId=242633

Slovenia 12 2020. EUR 2021.21 BRUTTO, EUR 1314.62 EUR. https://www.stat.si/statweb/en

Hungary 12 2020. HUF 449.400 BRUTTO, HUF 298.900 NET. http://www.ksh.hu/docs/eng/xftp/gyor/ker/eker2012.html Tiriu (talk) 10:43, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Partly done: Lithuania's values were already added but Slovenia and Hungary have been updated. Thanks! — TGHL ↗ (talk) 16:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Moldavian data

Please change Moldova gross average wage from 402€ to 421€ (8859,9 MDL) for Q4 2020. And Net average wage to 337€. Source(Biroul National de Statistica (Moldova) - https://statistica.gov.md/newsview.php?l=en&id=6930&idc=168 Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.158.155.130 (talk) 15:18, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 19:52, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hungarian data

Hi Dear Editor(s)!

Could you please correct the freshly updated, but incorrect wages in euro and the date for Hungary? According to the current exchange rate (EURHUF 367,40) the gross average monthly salary is €1223 and the net average monthly salary is €814, which apply to 2020-12.

Thank you for taking the time! :)

Edit: My bad, here are the sources: Official data of Hungarian Central Statistical Office: https://www.ksh.hu/gyorstajekoztatok/#/en/document/ker2012 Net salary calculator: https://www.fizetesek.hu/en/calculator (you have to multiply the gross amount by 0,665) Exchange rate: https://www.xe.com/en/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=EUR&To=HUF — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kupurc (talk • contribs) 12:52, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Kupurc (talk) 14:02, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Do you have a citation for that? NightWolf1223 20:43, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request for edit of Bulgarian average wages

The data for Q4 2020 (€582 net) have come out and are input in the table. However, the maps still contain the old figures. Could some editor, pretty please, just update the maps with the figures in the table? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.85.1.235 (talk) 18:02, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2021

The Estonian gross salary in Q4 2020 is marked correctly (1515€). However, the calculation for net salary is incorrect. Instead of 1214€ it should be 1233.37€. The calculation is based on salary calculator provided by Äripäev which is the largest business newspaper in Estonia: https://www.raamatupidaja.ee/palgakalkulaator

It also means that the net average monthly salary (adjusted for living costs in PPP) should be changed accordingly. Thank you for your time. JaanusMuur (talk) 09:43, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @JaanusMuur: , thank you for your request, the link that you provided, does not show the details that you mentioned therefore this request is Not done for now, if you can find the correct link, feel free to reopen the request by changing answered= from yes to no Trains2050 (talk) 06:18, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Data for Poland is incorrect

https://www.pulshr.pl/wynagrodzenia/wzrost-pensji-polakow-zaskoczyl-nawet-ekspertow-niespotykany-wynik,80987.html

It's 5929 zł gross, so 1300 euro and 4200 zł net, so 921 euro.

Data for the Netherlands is incorrect

Source 74 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage#cite_note-auto1-74 tells modal income is 79% of average income in the Netherlands. 79% * €36.500 / 12 months = €3.850 average income before taxes, €2.832 after taxes without any deductions. The numbers in "European and transcontinental countries by monthly average wage" should be changed.

The numbers in source 74 are correct. These are official sources provided by the Dutch government mentioning the modal/average ratio as well: - https://www.cpb.nl/sites/default/files/omnidownload/CPB-Kerngegevenstabel-juniraming-2020.pdf - https://www.cpb.nl/sites/default/files/Toelichting-op-prijzen-lonen-en-koopkracht.pdf

Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2021

Hello editors, please update data for Lithuania. Please change gross wage from 1429€ to 1517€ and change net wage from 913€ to 967€. Change 2020 to 2021Q1

According to https://osp.stat.gov.lt/informaciniai-pranesimai?articleId=8771588 , Lithuania's average gross wage for 2021Q1 was 1517,4€ (rounds up to 1517€) while net wage was 966,5€ (rounds up to 967€). Please update.

Thanks in advance

Have a nice day! Onestep76 (talk) 12:44, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Thank you and have a nice day :) — Soveryvivid  19:11, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2021

Lithuania 2021 Q1 should be GROSS 1517.4 NET 966.5

Source Department of Statistics of Lithuania: https://osp.stat.gov.lt/informaciniai-pranesimai?eventId=242635 Tyrejas1 (talk) 08:26, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done. Thank you! — Soveryvivid  19:12, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 June 2021

Hi,

I would like to update data in "Net PPP in $" for Poland. Based on "Report for Selected Countries and Subjects" [1] which is used to calculate "Net PPP in $", the ratio for Poland in 2021 is set to 1.826, that indicate that "Net PPP in $" should be equal to 2338 (4269/1.826). Please change 2,225 to 2,338 in "Net PPP in $" for Poland.

Bests, Marcin Plata Ma0pla (talk) 10:46, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: It does not appear there is consensus for this change. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:41, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 July 2021

Change Greece gross salary for 2020 to 1424 Euro - Source: https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DatasetCode=AV_AN_WAGE# Mitkoik (talk) 12:42, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.Grayson Indica (talk) 04:00, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request for edit of Moldovan data for Q2 2021

Please change Moldovan Gross Wage for Q2 2021 from 421€ (8 859 MDL) to 435€[1] (9 044 MDL)[2]. And NET Wage from 339€ (7 131 MDL) to 350€[3] (7 242,83 MDL[4]).

I asked to change this 1 week ago and someone deleted my request.

Source(Biroul National de Statistica (Moldova) - https://statistica.gov.md/newsview.php?l=en&idc=168&id=7112&parent=0 Can anyone update these data?

Anyone?

Is anyone in charge of this section?

 Done. Omitted decimals to follow table formatting, Heartmusic678 (talk) 15:51, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.xe.com/fr/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=9044.5&From=MDL&To=EUR
  2. ^ https://statistica.gov.md/newsview.php?l=en&idc=168&id=7112&parent=0
  3. ^ https://www.xe.com/fr/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=7242.83&From=MDL&To=EUR
  4. ^ salarii.md

Hungarian data

Hi Dear Editor(s)!

Could you please update both gross and net salaries for Hungary? The difference is quite significant between the data you find here and the actual numbers. According to the freshest data the gross average monthly salary is HUF 428100 which is €1170 and the net average monthly salary is HUF 284700 which is equal to €778. It applies to 2021-09.

Sources: Wages - https://www.ksh.hu/docs/eng/xftp/gyor/ker/eker2109.html Exchange rate - https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=EUR&To=HUF


Thank you for taking the time! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kupurc (talk • contribs) 13:30, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2021

Please change the "Net PPP in $" column for Ukraine from 1,355 to 1,501. Because the PPP value wasn't recalculated after the last changes, when the net value was changed from 9,931 UAH to 11,522 UAH (or from €300 to current €363). Also the current salary in Ukraine is 14,345 UAH (you can check it here http://www.ukrstat.gov.ua/express/expr2021/08/105.pdf - State Statistics Service of Ukraine) or 11,547 UAH after tax (https://finance.ua/ru/calc/salary). The PPP coefficient for Ukraine is 7.69 [1].

Baby talk

"The salary distribution is right-skewed, therefore more than 50% of people earn less than the average gross salary."

This rather depends what you mean (excuse pun) by "average".

It's a vague term and statisticians try to avoid it in favour of specific terms - median, mode, [arithmetic/geometric/harmonic] mean. They exist for a reason. Use them.

From this site: "In statistics, mean, median, and mode are all known as measures of central tendency, and in colloquial usage any of these might be called an average value. " — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2788:1008:2C3:E2CB:4EFF:FE88:1A2D (talk) 19:59, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's why it's called average wage. This amount doesnt care if +50% earn less. If you want a more precise term, you should create a new wikipedia page called "European countries by median wage". Than 50% will have less(or equal) than the median wage, and 50% will have more. Countries are not interested in having such statistics because the amount will drop by 20-30%. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E0A:F7:BBC0:C4C7:37EB:894:D38B (talk) 08:33, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Using official OECD data for all countries instead of the actual sum of hundreds of different sources?

The actual data is based on more than a hundred different sources, while many of these are not even official. The data is very misleading. The OECD offers official data for most European countries regarding wages and it's 2019 or 2020 updated data. What if this page would have that data instead of using individual sources for each country? The OECD is an official organism, not a newspaper or a random website offering data.

This is the link, most European countries are included and all have 2000-2020 data: https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=AV_AN_WAGE# --Pfarla (talk) 16:16, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ISTAT data are official for Italy. Your idea is good if you set all OECD data for all countries . Do that if you find consensus.Msimoncinifideuram.it (talk) 12:50, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bad idea, a lot of European countries, like Romania, Moldova, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Croatia, Serbia, Russia are not included in OECD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.41.108.18 (talk) 23:52, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Moldavian data for Q3 2021

Hi, Please change Moldovan Gross Wage for Q3 2021 from 453€ (9 044 MDL) to 462€[1] (9 175,7 MDL)[2]. And NET Wage from 339€ (7 131 MDL) to 370€ [3] (7 347,90 MDL[4]).

Source(National Bureau of Statistics - Biroul National de Statistica (Moldova) - https://statistica.gov.md/newsview.php?l=en&id=7191&idc=168 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.41.108.18 (talk) 11:03, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.158.155.130 (talk) 12:27, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=9175.7&From=MDL&To=EUR
  2. ^ https://statistica.gov.md/newsview.php?l=en&id=7191&idc=168
  3. ^ https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=7348&From=MDL&To=EUR
  4. ^ https://salarii.md/

Can anyone update these data? When it's done, the next Q4 data will arrive, the numbers will be obsolete... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.158.155.130 (talk) 17:43, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone? In charge of this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.163.222.239 (talk) 08:29, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I made the request on the 2nd of December. Today it's the 22nd of December. The date are still - NOT UPDATED. Can anyone work on this page and if not, allow the other members to update the page. It's not serious.

Anyone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.158.155.130 (talk) 17:54, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's the end of January 2022. Still - no changes. Very Sad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.158.155.130 (talk) 14:39, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

F u c k i n g A s s h o l e s. F a g g o t s. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.163.222.239 (talk) 17:35, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Slovakia PPP - 2021Q2.

Regarding PPP for Slovakia. Net salary published is 915 Euro (2021Q2). If we apply the PPP conversion rate to USD from the given link [2], which is 0,527 (2021Q2) we got only 1736, not 2059 as shown in the table. Could you explain the difference?

Update on romanian data

Update on romanian average wage data, both gross and net. Source: official gazette no.1239/28.XII.2021 ([1] page 4, chapter III, Art. 15.) Change gross wage from 5.688 lei to 6.095 lei(1.233 euros) Change net wage from 3.487 lei to 3.565(721 euros) Mascarpone1337 (talk) 21:36, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: I can't figure out where you're getting that data from - the page you link is confusing and Google Translate is pretty unhelpful. casualdejekyll 01:43, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.monitoruloficial.ro/Monitorul-Oficial--PI--1239--2021.html

Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2022

North Macedonia 474 EUR (29.150 MKD) November 2021 92.53.59.233 (talk) 12:38, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. casualdejekyll 00:49, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2022

Update Serbia average salary - 588€ nov 2021

https://publikacije.stat.gov.rs/G2022/Html/G20221017.html 93.186.69.28 (talk) 17:18, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. casualdejekyll 01:41, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nov update for average wage in Romania

Gross: 5944 RON (1202 EUR) Net: 3645 RON (737 EUR) Source: [1] 86.121.167.62 (talk) 08:10, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://insse.ro/cms/sites/default/files/com_presa/com_pdf/cs11r21_0.pdf

Ukraine statistic update for December 2021

Please update. Average salary in Ukraine for December 2021: Gross 17453 UAH Net 14049 UAH Link 1: https://index.minfin.com.ua/labour/salary/average/ Link 2: https://finance.ua/ua/calc/salary

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Oleksa runner (talk • contribs) 18:57, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2022

https://www.fakulteti.mk/news/22022022/prosechnata-neto-plata-za-dekemvri-e-29-943-denari North Macedonia : 485 EUR (December 2021) 62.162.52.66 (talk) 13:56, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 16:15, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Moldovan Average earnings in the fourth quarter of 2021

Please change Moldovan Gross Wage for Q4 2021 from 453€ (9 044 MDL) to 489€[1] (9 767,6 MDL)[2]. And NET Wage from 339€ (7 131 MDL) to 390.4€ [3] (7 821,90 MDL[4]).

Source: The National Bureau of Statistics of the Republic of Moldova - https://statistica.gov.md/newsview.php?l=en&id=7315&idc=168

References

  1. ^ https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=9767.6&From=MDL&To=EUR
  2. ^ https://statistica.gov.md/newsview.php?l=en&id=7315&idc=168
  3. ^ https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=7821.9&From=MDL&To=EUR
  4. ^ https://salarii.md/

Moldovan data for Q4 2021

Hello, renew the Moldovan Wage for Q4 2021 from €453 (9044 Lei) to €490 (9768 Lei). And NET Wage from €339 (7131 Lei) to €390 (7822 Lei).

according to the National Bureau of Statistics of the Republic of Moldova - https://statistica.gov.md/newsview.php?l=en&id=7315&idc=168

Moldovan average earnings are intentionally not updated

I made several demands to change the Moldovan average wage for Q3 and Q4 2021. My demands are constantly ignored even though I provided correct information with the respective sources. That's totally a violation of free speech. You should either allow everyone to change this information or do you job correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.163.222.239 (talk) 14:08, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll make sure to report the abuse of the administrators on the published information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.163.222.239 (talk) 14:11, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Slovak net wage is wrong and doesn't correspond to gross wage

According to Slovak Statistical office, the average gross wage in Q4 2021 war 1331 eur - as seen on https://slovak.statistics.sk/ (this is already correct). However, net wage doesn't correspond to this - according to this brutto-netto calculator https://openiazoch.zoznam.sk/kalkulacky/vypocet-cistej-mzdy, 1331 gross is 1003 net, not 935. According to this, the PPP rate is also wrong - according to my calculations, it should be around 2200. Current information creates a false image that net/PPP salaries in Slovakia are lower than in neighboring states (Hungary, Romania, Poland, Croatia) while in reality, they are more or less the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.149.229.121 (talk) 08:39, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2022

The average salary of Republic of Bulgaria is 640eu not 665eu, as this page claims, please fix it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Bulgaria 86.99.155.129 (talk) 11:33, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information, please provide reliable sourcing to verify claim. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 09:04, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 24 March 2022

North Macedonia: January 2022 - 29 980 MKD - 493 EUR https://www.stat.gov.mk/. Please update asap. 62.162.52.66 (talk) 12:45, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done It's not clear what changes you want to make. Remember to respond in a "change X to Y" format. Cool guy (talk • contribs) • he/they 22:03, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2022

79.101.168.227 (talk) 15:27, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I found insane amount of errors in this map:

Average salary in Bulgaria is 640eu not 665eu, please fix that. [2] Average salary in Ukraine is $200 -> 190 euros, not 372eu.... Their annual income is at: GDP per capita (Decrease) $2,405 (nominal, 2022 est.) Average salary in Croatia is 955eu not 987eu, please fix that. [3] Average salary in the disputed territory of Serbia, called Kosovo is $405 -> 385eu... Their annual income is at: GDP per capita $4,865 (nominal, 2021 est.) Average salary in Greece is 781eu not 1,116eu. [4] - Average net salary is €9,382/12 = 781eu

And many many other countries too.

In progress: An editor is implementing the requested edit. Amadeus22 🙋 🔔 23:40, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Partly done: Some of your sub-requests weren't (properly) sourced and some I had trouble interpreting myself (I'm not in the economy sector haha), but I've added some of your requested changes and I've added an outdated tag so that others may help out too, or at least readers will be properly notified when reading the list. Thanks for your contribution! Amadeus22 🙋 🔔 23:52, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2022

Hey, I found insane amount of errors in this map:

Average salary in Bulgaria is 640eu not 665eu, please fix that. [5] Average salary in Ukraine is $200 -> 190 euros, not 372eu.... Their annual income is at: GDP per capita (Decrease) $2,405 (nominal, 2022 est.) Average salary in Croatia is 955eu not 987eu, please fix that. [6] Average salary in the disputed territory of Serbia, called Kosovo is $405 -> 385eu... Their annual income is at: GDP per capita $4,865 (nominal, 2021 est.) Average salary in Greece is 781eu not 1,116eu. [7] - Average net salary is €9,382/12 = 781eu Average salary in Serbia is 635 eu not 600eu.

And many many other countries too. Last time my message was ignored, please don't ignore my message and correct the lying information. 178.221.65.117 (talk) 16:45, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Note: Your message wasn't ignored and it isn't 'lying information', it's just outdated information I didn't have the time for to correct such large amounts of content, hence why I posted the tag to attract editors to renew the information. Amadeus22 🙋 🔔 20:37, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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